Living through abortion and with a transgender father – Kori Peterson

[00:00:00] kind of her bring your time bring your shame bring yong-gil welcome to educate

[00:00:07] for life I’m your host Kevin Conover my website is join da educate for life dot o-r-g if you’ve been keeping up on the

[00:00:14] news and if you’re familiar with the discussion over transgender rights which

[00:00:20] is a huge topic in the media today with the decision Trump made a while back about transgenders in the military and

[00:00:27] so forth then we have athletes who are transgender who are joining sports teams

[00:00:32] of the sexes that is opposite to their birth so you have men who are transgender joining women’s sports teams

[00:00:39] it’s kind of throwing things off a lot of people don’t know how to deal with this and depending on your perspective

[00:00:44] you have different views on how this should be dealt with recently back in

[00:00:49] July Canada it looks like became the first country to give out an official

[00:00:57] genderless ID card this is an article from BuzzFeed news it says here and what

[00:01:02] could be the first such case in the world Canadian officials have issued a baby named Cyril and I’m not sure if I’m

[00:01:08] saying this right Cheryl Alti a health card without a gender marker the parent

[00:01:13] corrido t a non-binary transgender person who identifies as neither male nor female gave birth to Sarah in

[00:01:20] November and has been battling to keep the 8 month olds gender off all British Columbia government records ever since

[00:01:27] the health card has a you in the space for sex which could stand for unassigned

[00:01:32] or undetermined however officials refuse to issue a birth certificate without a

[00:01:37] gender and so what’s happening now in Canada here is that you have people saying hey this doesn’t make any sense

[00:01:42] we shouldn’t be doing this on the other hand the parent here Corey Doty is

[00:01:48] saying that that the baby needs to be able to identify their sex when they get

[00:01:55] older so again this is a subject that I brought up on the radio frequently because it’s such a hot issue in our

[00:02:01] culture today and that is does a pad does a person’s definition of themself

[00:02:08] matter more or does the reality of what they are matter more so

[00:02:13] CS Lewis called this perspectivism he thought it was very dangerous that a person defines reality how they define

[00:02:20] reality is more important than what reality actually is and and so the in our culture today we have this movement

[00:02:27] that’s essentially saying there is no such thing as truth there is no reality except the reality you make and you

[00:02:33] might think to yourself well how can how can a person say that that’s absolutely crazy but what they’re saying is this is

[00:02:39] that our minds are what is ultimately determines reality so you might see a

[00:02:44] table in front of you but they say without your mind to interpret what your senses are experiencing there is there

[00:02:50] would be no table so they’re saying that the mind is more important then actually

[00:02:55] what what you’re touching or feeling it’s what the mind perceives is what trumps whatever you’re experiencing and

[00:03:03] so so if you believe this what it means is is that how you perceive reality is

[00:03:09] more important than what reality actually is and is this a good thing or a bad thing now of course people that

[00:03:15] are supportive of this viewpoint perspectivism basically say a person

[00:03:21] should be able to define reality for themselves they are the end all and be all of their existence and therefore Who

[00:03:28] am I to impose my view of reality on them and generally speaking if you hold

[00:03:33] this perspective it’s because you don’t believe in God now or you you think God is questionable the existence of God is

[00:03:40] questionable I’m sure there are people who believe in God who still feel this way but but does God define reality or

[00:03:46] do we define reality am i in authority over over existence or is God in

[00:03:52] authority over existence did God make male and female or do i define what

[00:03:59] variety of sexes there are these are important questions and they really affect how we live how we treat others

[00:04:05] and ultimately also how what laws are going to be established in our country and around the world and it’s a huge

[00:04:11] culture war that’s happening right now I have a guest today who is familiar with

[00:04:17] these issues and this discussion her name is Corey Peterson she’s with

[00:04:23] Concerned Women for America which is the nation’s largest public see women’s organization it’s been

[00:04:29] around for about 35 years and they help people all across the country bring biblical principles into all levels of

[00:04:36] public policy that’s the goal they have about five hundred thousand members and they focus on seven core issues the

[00:04:43] family the sanctity of human life religious liberty education sexual

[00:04:48] exploitation national sovereignty and support for Israel and naturally all

[00:04:53] these seven issues are grounded in the scriptures in the Bible so Corey thank you so much for being here on the radio

[00:05:00] today thank you for having me absolutely now you were the director of CWA in

[00:05:07] Southern California is that right correct until the end of January okay and so now you’re you’re heading off to

[00:05:13] Texas why the move from California to Texas well I’ve been praying about

[00:05:18] America Texas for two years and I have to say it with politics it’s kind of catalyst I was following being being the

[00:05:25] area director in Southern California as concerned wonderful America I was following legislation pretty closely and

[00:05:30] getting pretty darn discouraged yeah how many battles were losing and so I just

[00:05:36] sort of trained about the move and the meantime I was still fighting and you know for our freedoms here in California

[00:05:43] and then anyway the Lord just kind of opened the doors for us to go and so we started walking through them and so we

[00:05:50] have relocated well I would follow you except that the weather is really nice

[00:05:55] here in San Diego and so it’s hard to leave but they don’t come they don’t

[00:06:02] call it they don’t call it America’s finest city for nothing yeah exactly exactly so well so your experience with

[00:06:10] this now now going back I wanted to kind of that our listeners to be able to have the opportunity to hear how you got

[00:06:15] involved with Concerned Women for America because it’s not something that you originally your intention was hey I want to get involved politically I want

[00:06:22] to become a a political junkie and really you know be up on all the political issues and maybe you can take

[00:06:29] us all the way back to how this all started and share your testimony for

[00:06:35] those of you who are listening Cory has suffered from abortion as well as I’ll

[00:06:42] give you a heads up on what we’re gonna be talking about she which which would hint from the article but her father is

[00:06:48] transgender and so she has a story to share that many people don’t get to hear

[00:06:54] don’t get to hear this kind of perspective and so I think it’s very valuable for our listeners to hear where she’s coming from as somebody who loves

[00:07:00] the Lord and has been impacted by these issues so we we have about three minutes

[00:07:06] left in this segment so we’ll start it off start your testimony off Cory but we’ll have to pick up on the next

[00:07:12] segment to finish that off so why don’t you take us all the way back to where you grew up and what your family was

[00:07:17] like okay all right so I grew up in El Cajon there in San Diego and lived with

[00:07:27] my mom my mom with a single mom in and out of marriages and stuff and then my grandma my my parents divorced when when

[00:07:34] I was five and so so at the time we was in North Carolina and my mom said to my

[00:07:39] sister and I that’s not here to California and then you know we just kind of grew up in the area so all my

[00:07:47] childhood it really until like I said just earlier this year my whole life really has been in front of California

[00:07:53] and my family was not necessarily Christian family although if you asked them the same way they did say yes that

[00:07:58] they were kind of Christmas and Easter only types and I just you know if you’re

[00:08:03] an American then you must be Christian and perspective really and but I always

[00:08:09] had a heart for the Lord I just never realized that you could really go go deeper and so when I was in when I was

[00:08:15] in junior high I started attending a youth group in El Cajon and that’s when I first heard the Gospel message and and

[00:08:23] just really got the salvation message message that I needed to accept Jesus in my heart and and live live for him as

[00:08:29] Lord of my life and so for me the easy decision I thought I was already doing that now how did you hold that how did

[00:08:35] you end up finding out about this youth group and ended up going to the church well I took a question um I I think it

[00:08:43] just opened up down the street from where I grew up I won in El Cajon Jason Jason Baldwin’s yeah exactly where that

[00:08:50] is okay yeah and there was a young lady that started a youth group I saw just

[00:08:56] maybe a block down the street and I grabbed a girl friend of mine who was a neighbor and we started going whenever

[00:09:02] those days we started working it at a camp there in Hamoui called Indian host camp oh my goodness wait wait you know I

[00:09:08] lived for two years on Mollison when I first moved to California from New Jersey that’s so ironic and I know all

[00:09:15] about Indian Hills camp I’ve been there many many times so that’s funny but anyway go on I don’t want to cut you off

[00:09:20] actually I am gonna cut you off because we’re coming up on a break here so so stay tuned my guest is Cory Peterson

[00:09:27] she’s with CWA she’s a homeschool mom and very involved in these issues she’s has quite a life story and you can

[00:09:35] get hope from what she’s been through and how she’s come out on the other side of these issues and is continuing to

[00:09:41] seek the Lord and honor him with her life through the struggles she’s been through so stay with us we’re gonna be right back

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[00:12:05] Conover my website is join da educate for life dot o RG if you want to pick up a copy of this this radio program you

[00:12:12] can I also just recently interviewed Denise Schick who has an amazing testimony her father told her he was

[00:12:19] transgender at nine years old and she talks all about the process she’s been through with that it’s amazing my guest

[00:12:24] today is Corey Peterson she’s with Concerned Women for America in Texas now

[00:12:31] she’s gone from California to Texas and the website is CAC WFA dot o-r-g if

[00:12:39] you’d like to get involved they’re an amazing organization actually started by Beverly LaHaye who lived out here in

[00:12:46] Southern California with Tim LaHaye they are Tim LaHaye was the author of Left Behind so that all these kind of

[00:12:52] ties together here but my so Corey you you were telling us that you were

[00:12:57] growing up in in a El Cajon California you went to a church there you ended up getting invited somebody started a youth

[00:13:03] group and you ended up turning your life over to Christ so so pick up from there

[00:13:09] what happened next sure so then I went to high school El Cajon Valley High School was very

[00:13:14] involved in the youth group at another church down there on Mollison Chi and

[00:13:19] and then I also got very involved in the Christ campus life while I was in high school and so my leader was Darren

[00:13:27] Higgins oh my gosh yeah he teaches Bible with me at Christian high school it’s

[00:13:38] too funny I didn’t know any of this before we had we started this show this

[00:13:44] is crazy yeah I mean me and Darren are really good friends and talk all the

[00:13:49] time he gives me a hard time all the time Darren if you’re listening okay

[00:13:56] it’s you’ve gone oh well there it was really influential in my life in high school and I think I kept me on a

[00:14:02] straight path I really wasn’t too interested in in veering off into the

[00:14:07] party scene or anything like that but they real involved in campus life and

[00:14:13] worked very closely with Darren babysit his daughter and back in the day after high school I think that occurred

[00:14:20] last off you know I didn’t transition more from high school to college and I’m not really I’m not just a high school

[00:14:27] coach I’m experienced at an int transition well you know going from youth group and this kind of focus on on

[00:14:34] youth activities and then and then transitioning and you know you know what it’s like to be an adult Christian yeah

[00:14:40] yeah and there’s a gap there yeah it’s difficult because you had a lot of times

[00:14:45] you have a community in high school and then when you move off to college that community is kind of missing and so it’s

[00:14:51] harder to would you say it’s harder to maintain your christianity without that kind of body of christ around you I

[00:14:58] don’t think so because this whole culture is kind of changing as a circle change and of course you know I was

[00:15:04] still a birthday made for Christ and they used to but that was kind of my social fear so when that just was was

[00:15:11] ended because I graduated high school I didn’t really as kind of floundering don’t really know where to go and so um

[00:15:17] so anyway you know I go to church on Sundays but shortly after that I got involved with the guy and in town and we

[00:15:26] have been friends for a couple of years and Stefan I never thought anything would happen but long story short I

[00:15:32] ended up having an abortion and it totally was absolutely devastating to me

[00:15:37] not to I’m talking talk more about that later you’re a bat just put me on my face before the Lord where I really just

[00:15:44] was so broken so contrite now how how old were you when that happened it was

[00:15:51] just before my 20th birthday that that has to be absolutely devastating and

[00:15:56] what and did you have people that were supporting you after you went through that or was that where you kind of were

[00:16:03] you on your own I mean because that’s not something that you want to tell people especially at that age so what

[00:16:11] happened there and especially with the reputation I had a third girl involved most Christian clubs and I was born and

[00:16:18] stuff so younger the only person that me was my boyfriend and instead and then I

[00:16:25] had told one at a friend of ours when school’s over first more College well so only two people knew

[00:16:32] yeah only two people know it was so it was such a hard yeah yeah alright so I

[00:16:42] kind of want to just pause here because I feel like it’s important to let people

[00:16:48] know how to respond to this so looking back on your life and what you had gone through at that point let’s say there’s

[00:16:56] a girl out there right now who’s who’s maybe going through something similar what would you say to her and what would

[00:17:04] you say to maybe people involved about how what should be done and and how

[00:17:09] should they be responding and what should be going on in their heart because I mean that’s such an intense pain I want somebody to have hope now if

[00:17:17] they’re listening and this is what they’re going through what would you say to them I would say find a Pregnancy

[00:17:23] Resource Center something like as a 22 care center in El Cajon or silent voices down in Chula Vista or Ramona pregnancy

[00:17:30] center up in Ramona or I was at life choices I didn’t Poway they’re all over

[00:17:35] the city I would I would tell any of these women and do not do not head to Planned Parenthood head to one of these resource

[00:17:42] centers because they want to love you they want to love your baby and they want to help you and a lot of the

[00:17:49] narrative is that Oh Pro lifers they only want to save the baby they don’t care about the mother I said all the

[00:17:54] time yeah nothing could be further from the truth if you would here impure in Imperial Valley there’s a there’s a

[00:17:59] group called real Hope Center and they will even help get these these girls through school there’s no there’s no

[00:18:07] limit to what they will do for these girls and so and so I would just say I think I have known of that um you know I

[00:18:15] I think I would have gone a direction but in the only thing I knew might default with Planned Parenthood because

[00:18:20] Planned Parenthood was in the school my boyfriend knew about Planned Parenthood and that’s all I know

[00:18:25] and you know their diverse industry for so anyway I think I think that that’s

[00:18:31] really if there’s if there’s someone out there and yeah finding Pregnancy Resource Center’s because they are just

[00:18:37] there to serve an airball mostly that they are volunteering their time they’re doing everything they can yeah help these the girls and their baby and

[00:18:44] if it’s a boy if it’s a boy who who’s listening to this right now and he’s the one that you know got the girl pregnant

[00:18:52] what would you say to him uh uh I would

[00:18:57] just say to be so compassionate it’s such a it’s such a terrifying thing to

[00:19:02] go through crisis pregnancy especially when you can’t tell anybody and so I’m and and to know that because

[00:19:08] I think we we work at abortion like it’s an easy answer Oh nobody well-known we’ll go on with our lives

[00:19:14] yeah and you know that’s what’s being protest but I mean we can see when you look at women who have been grieved over

[00:19:20] their abortions and and then you and I even met a grandpa recently he was so agree to an abortion but in his family

[00:19:26] and you know these are not things that we just get over and move on from their days that we carry with us our whole

[00:19:31] lives and if we don’t heal from them they do affect our decisions through the rest of life so I would just encourage

[00:19:37] them to to not think that it’s just a quick problem that will go away there’s

[00:19:43] a problem now with the crisis pregnancy don’t compound it by adding abortion to

[00:19:48] it if you’re taking the life of a child and they even have to bear that forever yeah and that and that so I just want

[00:19:55] encourage if you’re listening out there right now and you know somebody who’s struggling with this or considering abortion a lot of people think abortion

[00:20:01] like like Corey said is going to just solve the problem but it actually makes the problem worse and that’s what that’s

[00:20:08] what Planned Parenthood doesn’t tell people is that this is not a memory that just disappears and I think I just want

[00:20:15] to emphasize what you said Corey again is that the people at these pregnancy centers they are there for you they want

[00:20:21] to help you they want to love you they’re going to wrap their arms around you nobody’s going to condemn you or judge you or you know or ruin your life

[00:20:29] they’re there to help you through this and there’s no place you’re going to get more compassion and kindness and help

[00:20:36] financial help spiritual help emotional help everything you need they’re gonna do it I have a good friend that works at

[00:20:41] a pregnancy care clinic here in San Diego through college area pregnancy services and what they do is just

[00:20:48] fantastic so again I just want to encourage you to do that and I think that’s so powerful

[00:20:54] we’re coming up on another break here the segment’s by goes you go by so quick here but my guest today is cory peterson

[00:21:01] and she’s with Concerned Women for America if you if you don’t know about this organization please get involved

[00:21:07] with them you can visit their website see WFA org or here in California CAC

[00:21:13] WFA org and they’ve got over 500,000 members that are working very hard

[00:21:19] working together as a as a team to make a difference in public policy decisions

[00:21:25] and so this is our opportunity to have a have an impact beyond what we can do

[00:21:31] alone and to join up and they send out alerts about things that are happening

[00:21:36] so that you can be involved and you can make phone calls you can get you can donate you can do all kinds of stuff so

[00:21:43] that you can have an impact on our culture for Christ okay we’re going to be right back we’ve got a few more

[00:21:49] segments and we’re gonna hear the rest of Corey’s story including her transgender father and how she has

[00:21:57] responded it to that issue we’ll be right back [Music]

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[00:25:11] Peterson with Concerned Women for America and the last segment we we ended

[00:25:17] Corey had recently gotten an abortion she was a good girl good Christian girl

[00:25:23] who loved God but got involved with a boyfriend and this happens more often

[00:25:28] than then people know and it’s not always the bad people that are that are

[00:25:34] making mistakes right and and we’re all bad to a certain extent we all need Christ so Corey can you pick up what

[00:25:40] happened after that and and where did you get help ultimately after the abortion

[00:25:48] yeah I was just on my face so broken after my abortion and I went to call the

[00:25:54] one girlfriend that I had during the time that knew and that my going to open up with me by this time this was only

[00:26:00] maybe two weeks later and I went to call her and just call my idols out to her and she wasn’t home her mother answered

[00:26:08] and as soon as she answers it to tell obviously there’s something wrong because if the assailant another happened to be a pastor’s wife happened

[00:26:17] to be exactly Oh Longhorn’s for it i bared my soul good

[00:26:25] bad and ugly to her on the phone and and she said oh and then she said let me

[00:26:32] pray for you and 50 creepin on the phone and I can’t hold it said she didn’t

[00:26:38] judge you or condemn you or you know tell you – oh and she just loved you oh

[00:26:43] my god she loved me and then she pray for me and all the guilt and and you

[00:26:50] know I want it I wasn’t suicidal by didn’t want to live you know all of everything I was bearing a heaviness I’m very ashes praying I just felt like

[00:26:57] light as feather and all I can say is that peace that surpasses all understanding or just took it and and

[00:27:04] then I asked I said what should I do and she said you have a Bible and I said

[00:27:10] when you start reading the falls so I started the Psalms and a couple days later and I was like not just reading I

[00:27:16] was digging and I was cross-referencing I was study in the word for the first time really ever in my life and then I

[00:27:22] called her a couple days later and I said Marilyn she said okay well why don’t read the coverage then I called her the next day

[00:27:27] and she said I said know it and she goes why don’t you lay through i’ma come on and I said you can’t like

[00:27:35] if you can have a little fun husband will start University oh that’s fantastic I thought you were hungry for God’s Word

[00:27:43] just ravenous yes and it was this communal ayah penetrating to the song

[00:27:49] was thinking this was written for me ya know that Psalm thirty eleven you turned my mourning understand see you remove my

[00:27:55] fat cloth clothing so that my heart would not be silent all oh my god I’ll give you think forever and they’re all

[00:28:00] viewed on all night long like that in tears and one was fairly annoyed with all of these things and I

[00:28:06] think oh wow well that’s what I love about the Scriptures you know is that

[00:28:11] this is not some fantasy this is real people live in real life interacting with a real God you know and so healing

[00:28:19] no well I still sharing a lot of a grief and guilt of the abortion and so I spend

[00:28:24] a lot of time in theaters and and stuff and I said that her house one night and I was just wanting to leave cried too but the poor woman did have a wife but

[00:28:36] there’s somebody here from a group called silent voices a group them tools if they’re for less than a dollar and

[00:28:42] they do a post-abortion recovery weekend and so she signed me up for it and it’s

[00:28:48] it’s done by Sharon Pierce if you know who she is the director gentle Vista is written an amazing colliculi on that

[00:28:55] several centers actually used now and so I find that for it so and so it was four

[00:29:01] months after my abortion I was at this recovery weekend and the world is just healing my heart and and so it was

[00:29:09] really I mean there will always be grief over it yeah there was only so much more

[00:29:14] feeling that came that Lincoln and I started to walk free that’s fantastic mm-hmm so little did

[00:29:20] you know that you had other other stuff that was going to be coming up as far as your father how long how long was it

[00:29:28] before you you found out that your father had begun cross-dressing okay so

[00:29:37] I mentioned earlier that my parents divorced when I was five and so when I was about 28 just before my husband I

[00:29:45] was about to get married a couple months before I found out that my dad was cross-dressing and you know we had a

[00:29:52] pretty distant relationship although we did keep in contact yeah but I thought I’d hate cross-dressing so I got like a wide

[00:29:57] range of emotions really with them probably like I feel like it was 15 seconds you know from from embarrassment

[00:30:03] to anger to – I mean I was even laughing

[00:30:10] over her – in the end I just was so grieved and I’m still so sad

[00:30:15] so sad so my job my face and then I mean I’m never leaving when I found out about my drug process seeing that my mother

[00:30:21] had found out and sureties me now was was he living here in San Diego um I

[00:30:28] don’t think he was at the time he’s always with kind of a a roaming

[00:30:34] lifestyle now it’ll make sense to the truck driver was in the military for a long time in many ways a truck driver

[00:30:40] for many years and when he retired he would RV and kind of travel about you know now it all makes sense but I wanted

[00:30:47] to say you know what by the end of the time I thought my dad was cross with me I just really wanted to love him yeah

[00:30:53] and how did you how did you find that out how did you find out that it was did he tell you no he didn’t tell me

[00:30:59] apparently he’s been in and out of many marriages to an ex-wife had contacted my mother and and then I found out ok there

[00:31:07] dad yeah so you just wanted your reaction was you wanted to love him in

[00:31:13] the end I mean I went through so much and I said literally in 30 seconds I went through so many emotions but in the

[00:31:19] end I just really in fact so much wanted 11 as my husband my fiance time we were

[00:31:26] driving back to Los Angeles where I live in Orange County he was live in LA at the time and we were driving back up for

[00:31:33] a long drive to kind of discuss it and there’s a song I play on the radio by Thursday and and I told told Jamie my

[00:31:41] head I thought I want this song in our wedding my wanted there for my dad you know just that he knows a love of God

[00:31:46] and so that’s really my heart for my dad after that but it was something we never

[00:31:51] talked about I never mentioned it to my dad and I hope it’s a while so I know we don’t have very much time but um you

[00:31:58] know eventually my my sister found out of course around the same time as your

[00:32:05] sister older and is your sister older or younger she’s 3 years younger she was on the East Coast okay and so yeah does she

[00:32:13] was she close at all to your father no no not at all and after this she kind

[00:32:19] of asked them and said hey look you know what about had children we don’t really want this in our life or youth in it do

[00:32:25] you want to dress like a woman or do you want to be example and he in not very nice words told her

[00:32:32] to take a hike and and then like a letter came out later that we saw that

[00:32:38] he said and you know if Corey feels the same way well I don’t use the words but

[00:32:44] your home to her to basically and in it that was really heartbreaking just because of course we were we were

[00:32:51] wanting to love him and accept not accepted what are you doing but we wanted to love him we don’t no idea what

[00:32:57] it would look like if I said all of this but yeah somebody might say yeah somebody might say well what does that

[00:33:02] look like you know what if if I have a transgender coworker or I have somebody

[00:33:08] in my family that’s transgender and these are tough decisions that come up

[00:33:14] and how do I respond well we come back my guest today is Corey Peterson and she’s gonna talk to us a little bit

[00:33:20] about how she’s navigated these waters well how do you respond to somebody that’s a relative especially a father

[00:33:26] who’s chosen to engage in this lifestyle and to make these decisions we’re gonna

[00:33:32] be right back and please stay with us we’ve got two segments left

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[00:35:52] welcome dad you came for life I’m your host Kevin Conover please check out my youtube channel it’s youtube.com forward

[00:35:58] slash educate for life video we’ve got somewhere around 70 or so 70 or 80

[00:36:04] different radio programs up there all that have to do with all kinds of amazing issues and amazing people I’ve

[00:36:10] got up there let’s see dr. James tour he is one of

[00:36:16] the foremost scientists in the world he’s an organic synthetic chemist he talks about how he knows evolution is

[00:36:22] not true it’s absolutely fantastic also have just recently interviewed Denis Schick who has a transgender father also

[00:36:30] along these same lines recently interviewed Patti Hite who is a former lesbian who left the homosexual

[00:36:36] lifestyle to pursue Christ as well as dr. Christopher yuan who is a former

[00:36:44] homosexual who met Christ in prison amazing story and I also have on there

[00:36:52] all kinds of other people that have incredible stories about how Christ has impacted their life and the lives of

[00:36:58] those they know and just amazing testimonies to hear about God working in their lives it’s it’s all meant to give

[00:37:04] you hope and to let you know that God is true the Bible is His Word and that you can bet your life on the Bible put your

[00:37:11] build your life upon the Word of God so my guest today is Corey Peterson who has another fantastic testimony in Corey

[00:37:17] when we left off you were talking about how your your father basically shut you

[00:37:23] and your sister out of his life and so I think the question for those who have

[00:37:29] you could say transgender or people have embraced the homosexual lifestyle and

[00:37:34] they’re trying to navigate these waters how do I be a Christian and be loving because Christ told us to love all people but at the same time what does

[00:37:41] that mean does that mean at Christmastime my transgender father who’s dressed like a woman comes over

[00:37:50] and spends time with my kids you know what how do you navigate these waters

[00:37:56] yeah I don’t think so well let me sauce for it a little bit my

[00:38:02] dad did get back into contact with me a lot of right around the time my second son was born and we had a pretty good

[00:38:09] relationship for a few years and again we never spoke about the cross-dressing

[00:38:14] things I didn’t even know he was transgender at the time I just hear that cause he had kind of been a sin so I thought maybe he had moved on from it

[00:38:20] because he was coming around and where and whatever well then and five years

[00:38:27] ago so what about 2012 he he showed up at my son’s birthday of having seen

[00:38:34] addressed man okay and I am he lingered and after other kids were in bed and

[00:38:41] stuff he had some news he wanted to tell us and basically the Veterans Administration the VA cuz he’s retired

[00:38:48] army and had been given permission to diagnose transgender identity disorder

[00:38:53] and so he had recently gained this diagnosis and it validated him to go

[00:39:00] ahead and live his life as as the woman he believed he he always was so here he was sharing this with me finally we’re

[00:39:06] talking about it so Koriyama question so the VA diagnosed this as a disorder but

[00:39:11] their solution to the issue is to then allow them to try to become more like a

[00:39:18] woman not to help them adjust to being a man or to to navigate through the

[00:39:26] psychological and emotional issues of being a man how does that work I don’t

[00:39:32] know it looks cool to me and I think to anyone know it learned that what’s happening is they’re propagating the

[00:39:38] mental illness rather than treating it and then and they’re not just propagating it but now we’re getting to the point where were a quote treating

[00:39:45] transgenderism by you know the elation at surgeries that are that are going on in the hormone unblocking as a hormone

[00:39:53] replace job all this kind of stuff so so yeah well now they don’t call it sense

[00:39:58] in their identity to sort of you know they call it trans gender dysphoria they don’t they don’t call it a disorder

[00:40:03] anymore right and so um yeah so he he he

[00:40:09] kind of came out with it and I basically just told him you know I said well we had a very of old relationships for about a year

[00:40:15] after that where we were able to talk and he would you know I would kind of see where he’s going to know you tell me

[00:40:20] that he wanted he needed to have vocal cord surgery or ease and I have a rhinoplasty and it’s a hormone

[00:40:25] replacement and um you know just various things were what you were telling but

[00:40:31] like all this kind of like crazy laborious really stuff and so he would

[00:40:36] just kind of you know kind of keep me in the loop and all this so we would either text we would talk on the phone we had

[00:40:42] email and then a table would see each other as long as he was dressed you know anything’s a t-shirt as an and well then

[00:40:48] he decided pretty much just dressing every day as a woman and so I asked him I said is this what you’re doing cause I

[00:40:55] don’t want you I’ll see ya I want you to do what you’re going to do they’re not fake it around my kids you

[00:41:02] know and me so so what are you doing because if you’re gonna go full-time in this then we’re gonna have to cut off any physical contact you know what’s

[00:41:08] going on and still talk on the phone with you know you know let’s see that so that’s kind of where we went within that year so can I ask you Cory can I ask you

[00:41:16] so it’s clear your decision was if he was going to choose this lifestyle you were going to not allow him to be around

[00:41:22] your children so somebody might be thinking okay but is that the loving biblical thing to do can you explain your thoughts on that

[00:41:29] why was that the decision that you and your husband came to as far as your father was concerned somebody might be thinking well wouldn’t have been more

[00:41:35] loving to allow him to be around you and their kids regardless of how he dressed what what can you can you expound on

[00:41:43] that yeah I think you can be loving and not subject your children to things that

[00:41:48] are too confusing when they’re too young and so that’s really where I was coming from my kids were I don’t know seven and

[00:41:55] eight maybe nine it’s time I wasn’t about to just that my father dress you

[00:42:02] know as a woman and he’s not pulling it off well either so you know it’s obviously it’s obviously my dad and so

[00:42:09] um I wasn’t going to have my kids that witness that was just too confusing I think it’s disturbing at that Jungman

[00:42:16] agent honestly as a daughter I didn’t want to see my father that way this is my dad yeah I want him to be my dad I

[00:42:23] or to see him as in a something that really he’s pretending to be and so it

[00:42:30] wasn’t really you know I felt like I could still be loving to my dad and still set some boundaries yeah of course

[00:42:36] and really yeah and God does that with us all the time I mean boundaries are

[00:42:43] actually a demonstration of love frequently especially when it comes to children or so forth we’re trying to

[00:42:50] protect them as well as love the person so it’s tough to navigate sometimes you have to draw those lines and say I’m

[00:42:56] this is not something that is going to influence my kids well I was like you said they’re too young to be able to

[00:43:01] handle those sorts of issues right right yeah so and so he started so we thought

[00:43:07] you know like seeing each other and we it was where that we’d see each other anyway but we started that and just

[00:43:13] continued to talk on the phone but you know mostly was him doing the talking and I was just you know ask questions or

[00:43:20] he’d tell me about how you know this person is really accepting what he’s doing isn’t that great and I would just

[00:43:25] say I couldn’t affirm and so I would just say well it’s interesting you know because I felt like if I said anything

[00:43:31] and that he would take his negative he would below it and so um so eventually

[00:43:39] we were one like we were texting back and forth telling me about some surgeries and procedures and consultations that he needed to have and

[00:43:45] so I just wrote it back I said you know thank you so much for letting me know what swearing idea would be very much but I am sad to see you taking this a

[00:43:52] natural path well that was it after that he you know called me said that I was

[00:43:57] being judgemental and called me a bigot and and you know have a nice life so how

[00:44:03] many back how many years has it been since you have spoken to your father well that was four years ago he did

[00:44:10] start contacting me via text the following year on my birthday and Mother’s Day and stuff like that and

[00:44:17] then he stopped again until about a year later where he texted me again and told

[00:44:22] me that he was going to be having his reassignment surgery this was two years ago and I never responded to those texts

[00:44:29] because honestly I didn’t say yeah so the last time I mean there’s any

[00:44:34] exchange between us I guess there would be about three years ago but I heard sometimes two years ago when he told me via text that he was going to be having

[00:44:41] a reassignment okay my guest today is Cory Peterson and we’ve been talking about her testimony what she’s been

[00:44:48] through and also just most recently what her father is doing that the sex reassignment surgery we’re gonna finish

[00:44:54] up we have one more segment could talk a little bit more about this also talk about Paul McHugh from John Hopkins and

[00:45:00] his assessment of transgender surgery we’ll be right back for 36 years

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[00:47:24] welcome to educate for life I’m your host Kevin Conover my website is join da educate for life Joe are G love to have

[00:47:31] you check it out there’s a free trial class up there it’s great great online curriculum it’s a Bible curriculum

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[00:47:44] just individual study it’s fantastic lifetime access and once you sign up your whole family has access so it’s a

[00:47:50] fantastic resource my guest today is Corey Peterson she’s with Concerned Women for America and she her testimony

[00:47:57] is phenomenal the faithfulness of God in her life and even through the trials

[00:48:02] that she’s going through now and and her relationship with her father and I wanted to just start off this segment

[00:48:08] because a lot of people think that somehow the transgender surgery is doing

[00:48:15] people a favor but according to Paul McHugh who was the hospital’s chief of Psychiatry John

[00:48:21] Hopkins chief of Psychiatry from 1975 to 2001 he he says that this is a mental

[00:48:29] problem not a physical biological problem so whereas those who are

[00:48:34] supportive of transgender surgery might say hey we got to fix this problem by

[00:48:40] adjusting the body to fit the mind what he’s saying is there’s been a trauma in

[00:48:47] the mind that has caused this person to have this dysphoria and we have to adjust the mind to fit the body because

[00:48:54] the body is reality but the mind is perceiving things wrong and this is this is really what the battle is about is

[00:49:01] that is does our mind define reality meaning our perceptions or is reality

[00:49:09] what it is and we have to adjust the way we think to fit reality and the Bible

[00:49:15] talks all about this kind of an issue that ultimately our mind God is reality and we have to adjust our mind to think

[00:49:22] the way God thinks because he created all of creation and if our mind deviates from his creation how he’s created

[00:49:29] things then we’re only going to experience pain and I just want to make it clear that both Corey and I we love

[00:49:36] people but we think that the solutions that the world is proposing are actually hurting

[00:49:43] people not helping them would you say that’s right Cory yes definitely and and

[00:49:49] your involvement with CWA why did you start to get involved with them and how

[00:49:55] did that process take place because I love what you said I read a little bit of your biography how you were saying

[00:50:01] that this isn’t something that you were necessarily excited about you are if you

[00:50:06] are somewhat fearful but yet you took those steps anyway mm-hmm yeah well

[00:50:12] after my abortion back in 94 I used to listen to KPRC when I was in San Diego and Beverly Beverly LaHaye life was a

[00:50:20] show that was on at the time and so that’s my first who kind of introduces CWA but I didn’t really follow and then

[00:50:25] just about I don’t know maybe 2008 2009 I received a contact through my church

[00:50:31] in Borrego Springs asking if I would start a prayer action chapter since our woman for America for action chapter at

[00:50:37] my church and so I went ahead and started doing that and it’s just as it was a just a monthly meeting I get some

[00:50:44] ladies together we’ve read through this Concerned Women for America newsletter pray about stuff going on and take

[00:50:50] action whether that would be calling a legislator or doing a petition driver ever so I started doing that but I was

[00:50:57] but I started getting real vocal politically I’m not even really sure what the catalyst was I don’t know if it

[00:51:03] was the last administration I don’t know if it was homeschooling my children I don’t know if it was I suddenly fell in

[00:51:09] love with American history back in about 2007 I don’t know that maybe all those

[00:51:15] things where you’re paying a lot more attention politically so I started just really speaking out on social media and

[00:51:22] stuff like that well as I mean in the meantime I’m leading the prayer action chapter well then the Southern

[00:51:28] California area director at the time Ruth Smith who is now the current and a director again we had contacted me and

[00:51:35] said look I need to resign because I need to focus on some children’s and music ministry I really think this is a

[00:51:41] good fit for you where you take it so I went ahead and stepped into the role of Southern California area directors yes

[00:51:47] it was very very scary for me what was the scariest well yeah what was

[00:51:52] the scariest part about that the hardest thing for me are things like those like radio interviews or taking and so are

[00:51:59] you really are you really nervous right now or are you are you more comfortable okay well an hour before you called me

[00:52:04] it’s good for our listeners to hear the

[00:52:10] behind the scenes no I always like I’m quite at ease right now that you’re

[00:52:16] making it easy so thank you I really

[00:52:24] believe I used to have I used to think that when someone asked me to speak I need to pray about it or whatever I

[00:52:29] think sometimes do certain it’s a testimony this is my conviction I’m not famous for everybody I guess but my

[00:52:35] conviction is when someone asked me about my testimony I need to speak it and it’s revelation that this comes my

[00:52:41] helpoemer it says they overcame the devil by the blood of the Lamb the word testimony and not living their lives to

[00:52:47] death in your life you because because coming on the radio is close to dying

[00:52:53] right they say that that people fear public speaking more than they do dying so there you go somebody one museum a

[00:53:03] testimony at a hospital board meeting devil center because they opened at the Planned Parenthood there two years ago you’re hiding exciting that uh submit

[00:53:10] its own story but oh my gosh it was terrifying but as soon as they and I think I knew I had to say yes I went

[00:53:16] like you’re not what if I if I shake and I look like a fool and I think and I look like every wall this write my words

[00:53:21] down and and read them if I have to but I want to speak your truth here you know and so yeah so that’s really what kind

[00:53:29] of been out of my comfort zone but you know what the cool thing is is like God used that he uses us because it causes

[00:53:35] us to trust in him it causes us to not put so much faith and how we look you know in early for me ya know I’m so

[00:53:41] worried sometimes about how people can perceive me I’m like an embarrassed myself or whatever and I just kind of got to the point where I was like you

[00:53:47] know Moses said that he couldn’t speak and God said he would speak for him and you know kind of what I’ve climbed to is

[00:53:52] you know if I look like a fool to Esther if I perish I perish you know do what I

[00:53:59] need to do I’d rather be obedient than comfortable I love it that’s that’s really kind of

[00:54:04] the big thing I’ve learned in the last couple of years working with Concerned Women for America that’s such a powerful

[00:54:10] message because if there was ever time we needed more and more people to you know decide to have that courage decide

[00:54:16] hey I’m just gonna I’m just gonna go for it like you said whether I perish I perish and the reality is is that we’re not in

[00:54:23] a country where usually we typically have to worry about perishing we might we might face some persecution emotional

[00:54:30] and even potentially physical but but of by and large we still are a country that

[00:54:35] embraces religious freedom and embraces Christianity it to a large extent but if

[00:54:40] people don’t stand up like you’re doing then that could pass by the wayside and

[00:54:46] we could end up being in a country that’s even you know far more hostile than it currently is truly yeah yeah and

[00:54:52] you know what the the what you were saying that struck me I always loved that that quote by Edmund Burke all

[00:55:00] that’s necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing and and so

[00:55:05] here you are if people want to get involved with Concerned Women for America what’s the best way for them to do that and does concerned women for

[00:55:11] america need more people more volunteers or they pretty much you know got what they need absolutely we always need

[00:55:18] people and we we really need our prayer action leaders so like that’s how I got

[00:55:24] involved started a little group and to pray and take action and then you know we have steering committee needs in the

[00:55:31] state of California as well so the best thing is you is to go to Concerned Women

[00:55:36] org or CW FA org or specifically in state of California going to that CAC

[00:55:43] WFA org website and signing up there sign up for the alerts and become a

[00:55:49] member it’s a $25 donation to become a member and and then you know I’ll get

[00:55:57] the resources from CWA and kind of see what their there are because besides that besides the proaction chapters

[00:56:04] which is our grassroots and you know they have a strong national presence I’m actually heading to BC on Tuesday next

[00:56:11] week for our leadership training and we have a policy briefing in the White House or Phoenix we

[00:56:18] yeah so it’s kind of exciting that is very exciting we are you know it’s funny

[00:56:24] I’m sorry Cory I we are just about out of time here so please support Cory

[00:56:29] support CWA and we’ll be praying for you Cory thank you for being on the show today thank you so much yeah absolutely

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