Kevin Interviews Dean Broyles with The National Center for Law & Policy

[00:00:25] welcome to educate for life I’m your host Kevin Conover and we are live this is the first time I’ve ever done this so

[00:00:31] I’m pretty excited here I’ve got in studio right now Jordan along with Dean Broyles and we

[00:00:38] are trying out here screaming this on YouTube and Facebook and all we’re actually this show that we’re we’re

[00:00:44] having today is actually going to be on the air on K prz 12 10:00 a.m. this

[00:00:49] Saturday 2:00 to 3:00 but what I wanted to do is try out streaming this so if you’re out there listening and you have

[00:00:56] an opportunity to maybe type in some comments or send us a text we’d love to get your opinion on what we’re talking

[00:01:02] about so please feel free to do that I’m gonna start off by reading a quick article we’re talking about a pretty hot

[00:01:08] subject today it’s sex education curriculum in the public schools specifically we’re talking about sex

[00:01:14] education in San Diego Unified School District there’s been a bit of a battle going on because the curriculum is so

[00:01:20] outrageous and this is a really cool article this is from life news.com it

[00:01:25] says new report proves abstinence education works fewer high school

[00:01:30] students are having sex and the data on this is January 8th 2018 it’s by tony

[00:01:36] perkins and let me just read to you a segment of this article here here’s what it says for every parent who’s trying to

[00:01:43] tell their teenage kids that everyone’s not doing it here’s proof according to the CDC’s new nationwide report the

[00:01:49] number of high school students who said they’ve ever had sex dropped from 47% in 2005 to 41% in 2015 so there’s a six

[00:01:58] percent drop there according to this study between 2005 and 2015 the good news is even better for african-american

[00:02:04] students who showed improvements across the board followed by Hispanics who practiced more abstinence in three of the four grades

[00:02:11] none of this is thanks to the previous administration researchers say after two

[00:02:16] terms of the last administration’s if it feels good do it approach most experts agree that President Obama accomplished

[00:02:23] one thing making the situation worse compared with their peers a 2016 study by the American Journal of Public Health

[00:02:30] found that teenagers in the government’s programs were more likely to have begin having sex and more likely to get

[00:02:36] pregnant and it’s no wonder the was so extreme that 40% of young people actually said they felt more pressure to

[00:02:43] engage in sex from their sex ed classes then from their boyfriends or girlfriends what a statement that’s 40%

[00:02:51] of kids saying when I took this sex ed class it actually made me feel more

[00:02:56] pressure to have sex then I would have gotten from my boyfriend or a girlfriend and my guest today is Dean Broyles he’s

[00:03:03] been on the show with me before I’ll give him a quick introduction he’s from the national center for law

[00:03:08] and policy he’s the president of the national center for law and policy he earned a Juris Doctorate degree from

[00:03:14] Regent University School of Law in Virginia Beach Virginia he was mentored in law school in constitutional

[00:03:19] litigation by Jay Sekulow if you keep up with the Supreme Court and so forth you

[00:03:25] probably heard Jay Sekulow name at some point in time who is part of the American Center for Law and Justice and

[00:03:30] Deen is also an affiliate attorney of the Alliance defending freedom Dean thanks for being on the program today

[00:03:36] great to be with you Kevin thanks for having me yeah absolutely it’s and you’re right in the middle of all this

[00:03:42] here and I had you and Ashleigh beaver on the show a while back where we were talking about what was coming down the

[00:03:48] pike at the time I don’t believe it had been introduced into the schools yet but it was or maybe just introduced and

[00:03:54] parents were becoming alarmed because of some of the stuff that was coming out and what was being taught essentially a

[00:04:00] lot of stuff that was extreme like pornography the curriculum referred to certain sites that actually had

[00:04:07] pornographic information and all the rest of you want to give us an update on where things are from from that point

[00:04:13] till now sure so we were reaching out to the community trying to educate parents

[00:04:19] educate pastors and churches and get people and knowledgeable and involved because within five to 10 minutes of me

[00:04:27] sitting down with any person I can show them how bad the curriculum is and convinced them to sign our petition and

[00:04:35] fight it and so it’s a really a no-brainer but what we’re seeing is people just don’t know and they don’t

[00:04:42] know what’s in the curriculum they don’t know and you know maybe they’re busy maybe they don’t care maybe they don’t

[00:04:49] speak English if if they’re you know his bed don’t speak English very well but people just are not paying attention even after

[00:04:56] we got a lot of media attention and it was in the Union Tribune and it was all over the TV Evening News and they showed

[00:05:03] demonstrated that the district was in fact teaching kids to go to the internet

[00:05:09] and to go to pornography to learn about sex and actually had links to pornography in the curriculum even after

[00:05:14] we showed that I mean 20 years ago that might have been enough to force a school district to pull the program but we

[00:05:20] presented about 22,000 to 2,500 signatures on our petition to the board

[00:05:27] in July we we address them again the media was again there covering our case

[00:05:32] and showing the pornography that they were linked to and the district actually at that meeting district members board

[00:05:41] members and you know employees of the district acknowledged that there were porn links in the in the curriculum

[00:05:48] didn’t deny it said that they’d because of our protests delinked some of the

[00:05:54] porn temporarily but they said that they wanted to reintroduce those porn links

[00:05:59] in the future because they felt like they were helpful and one of the board members in fact whose I believe a

[00:06:05] psychiatrist or psychologist who should know better yeah should know that porn harms kids and it’s not good for sixth

[00:06:11] graders he said well you know kids have laptops kids have iPhones they’re going

[00:06:17] to see it anyway and so we’ve gone in a few short years from school districts

[00:06:23] trying to filter their computers and keep kids off porn at school to now them

[00:06:28] saying hey porn is great it’s a wonderful way to learn about sex Wow and that’s awful I I interviewed district

[00:06:35] attorney summer Stefon who is fighting human trafficking in San Diego if she actually told me that essentially

[00:06:41] pornography is a gateway drug into human trafficking and that because of the spread of porn human trafficking has

[00:06:46] become an increasingly more difficult problem to deal with yeah that’s

[00:06:51] absolutely correct and what drives me crazy I’m a parent I have three kids three teenagers ones in junior high and

[00:06:58] two in high school and what drives me crazy as a kid or as a parent of children is that here in San Diego

[00:07:04] County if you’ve been paying attention you know that we’re one of the top ten places for sex trafficking recruiting in the United

[00:07:11] States yeah yep hi Dan just talked about this with with Point Loma Nazarene University and they’re a program to try

[00:07:19] to fight human trafficking yeah that’s right and as summer pointed out and in our additional research has pointed out

[00:07:26] there was a direct link between porn exposure and pornography and sex

[00:07:33] trafficking and the fact that children are more likely to be abused or molested if they’ve seen pornography themselves

[00:07:40] and so there’s a direct link so why in the very school district where these sex

[00:07:45] traffickers are recruiting yep would we start teaching kids that porn is OK porn

[00:07:52] is great here’s the links to the porn that you should see in your sex ed class and make them vulnerable to these

[00:07:57] horrible outcomes I just think it’s insane and it’s really bad public policy yeah that’s unbelievable I I have a

[00:08:05] variety of interviews for those of you who are listening today if you want more information about that this you know I interviewed a gentleman from covenant

[00:08:13] eyes not too long ago who actually talks about his own porn addiction and what he went through to get out of pornography

[00:08:19] and how young he was when he got introduced into that and he’s talking about that this incredible struggle to

[00:08:24] get out of pornography and here we have the school district actually introducing

[00:08:29] kids to something that’s highly addictive and very dangerous that’s right and and and just is unbelievable

[00:08:36] that that’s happening and yet and what we see here from the article I just read from life news.com is that abstinence

[00:08:44] actually works it actually causes kids to go hey I don’t have to be pressured

[00:08:50] into sex I don’t have to have sex and I can have self-control you know and the

[00:08:55] advocates for youth program in San Diego Unified specifically is hyper sexualizing and over sexualizing and it

[00:09:02] promotes early involvement in sex you can’t read through the curriculum without even as an adult blushing and

[00:09:09] thinking that these are sixth graders who are going to be exposed to all this explicit material put the pornography

[00:09:15] aside for one minute the curriculum normalizes early sexual involvement and actually promotes it and

[00:09:22] even though under California law they’re supposed to promote abstinence and acknowledge abstinence and promote and

[00:09:29] support marriage the advocates for youth program that comes out of Washington DC doesn’t do that and that’s what they’re

[00:09:36] using in San Diego Unified Wow okay well we’re coming up on a real short break here we’re only gonna be on a break for

[00:09:42] maybe 10 or 15 seconds before we hop back in here or screaming live if you have comments or thoughts that you’d like to share please feel free to text

[00:09:49] us or to write a comment on the stream we’d love to hear your thoughts and

[00:09:54] we’re going to be talking about what we can do as citizens here in San Diego and

[00:10:00] as conscientious conservatives and Christians who who want to see kids

[00:10:05] protected and believe that by far the best way we can do this it’s not to keep them uneducated but it’s to educate them

[00:10:11] in a way that’s going to help them to make good godly decisions not lead them down a path that’s ultimately going to

[00:10:17] lead them into dangerous behavior addictive behavior and even in some cases abortion so we’re going to be

[00:10:23] right back stay with us

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[00:10:56] hey welcome back I hope you’ve enjoyed our program so far we’ve just finished the first segment I’m here with Dean Broyles from the national center for law

[00:11:04] and policy his website is n CLP law Oh our G and he has been very much involved

[00:11:10] in fighting for religious freedom defending people that defending people’s

[00:11:15] conscience the religious right to live by their conscience and Dean before we hop back into the whole sex education

[00:11:22] curriculum area tell us a little bit about how you got involved in this and some of the other legal issues that

[00:11:28] you’ve been involved with I know you are arguing or participating in cases that are at the Supreme Court level yeah

[00:11:35] that’s right this term there’s two cases were involved with the first you’re probably

[00:11:41] very familiar with this which is a masterpiece cake shop case and we felt an amicus brief in that case and I had

[00:11:48] the blessing of being in the courtroom after US Supreme Court for oral arguments on December 5th and that was

[00:11:55] an amazing case and very important compelled speech case tell rod implications for our listeners who

[00:12:00] aren’t aware of what what happened there give a little background to what happened with a masterpiece cake Supreme

[00:12:06] Court case sure Jack Phillips is a Colorado Baker who was asked to bake a

[00:12:12] cake a wedding cake for a same-sex wedding celebration ceremony and he

[00:12:18] declined because of his faith he didn’t want to participate and contribute his artistic abilities to celebrating

[00:12:24] something that went against his personal faith and so he declined and was brought it before the caliph the Colorado Human

[00:12:31] Rights Civil Rights Commission and was found to have violated the law and was

[00:12:37] told that he had to bake cakes in the future for same-sex weddings and retrain

[00:12:42] his staff because their their worldview their thinking was wrong on the topic yeah very Orwellian yeah and that regard

[00:12:48] sounds like something out of a science fiction magazine or something yeah as a result he decided not to bake cakes

[00:12:53] anymore lost 40% of his business let had to layoff friends and family members from the business and has really

[00:13:00] suffered for taking a stand for his faith and so that case even though it

[00:13:05] deals with a wedding vendor and it’s not limited that the ruling is not

[00:13:11] limited to that in the sense that if the government can force Jack Phillips to

[00:13:16] use his art to participate in the same-sex wedding that the government can essentially compel us to do almost

[00:13:23] anything oh yeah and I interviewed a woman from Canada who was testifying on

[00:13:29] the issue of homosexual parenting her father was a homosexual who had raised

[00:13:34] her and and that she told me that in Canada she actually wouldn’t have been able to have this discussion with me on

[00:13:40] the radio because in Canada they’ve made it illegal to be able to even discuss the issue which is alarming that we

[00:13:47] would lose those kind of rights but that’s that’s the path we’re going down that’s right the other case is nifflas

[00:13:53] IRS’s Becerra and that’s a local case actually we’re representing two pregnancy care centers one in East

[00:14:00] County and one in Fallbrook and that’s that’s a situation where California a

[00:14:06] couple years back passed in 2015 passed a B 775 which forced pro-life pregnancy

[00:14:13] care centers to advertise for abortion or refer women for abortions as soon as

[00:14:18] they walk in the door of their building yeah that is so bizarre right okay I’m walking in to get help from my child

[00:14:24] here and and here here’s some information about how to go get an abortion the clinic is doing the exact opposite

[00:14:32] of what their mission is that they’ve been called to do yeah so we’re representing the the Centers and NIF

[00:14:38] flow which is a national organization umbrella organization for pro-life pregnancy care centers and at the

[00:14:45] Supreme Court and our merits brief was filed last a couple weeks back and

[00:14:50] there’s a lot of amicus briefs and the pro-life community coming in supporting our position and oral arguments will we

[00:14:57] expect to have have those in March that’s again another compelled speech case so I get I gave a briefing for a

[00:15:03] worldview group on Saturday morning and the topic was compelled speech at the Supreme Court and I was talking about

[00:15:08] both those cases and and not only does that have have a have a free speech

[00:15:13] angle but it really is a pro-life angle because what they’re trying to do the other side Planned Parenthood

[00:15:20] and NAMBLA dam blah but um oh gosh I’m figure getting the nay RAL here in

[00:15:26] California is trying to do is really silence and shut down pro-life pregnancy care centers and if they’re effective in

[00:15:32] doing that we’re gonna lose a lot more babies in California yeah and they’re not looking for a fair are fair discussion they’re not looking for an

[00:15:38] argument back and forth they’re looking for hey we just don’t want you to say anything we don’t want you to even have a voice yeah and in this case you know

[00:15:46] they’re saying to them we the government supports abortion so therefore the government wants to

[00:15:52] force you to express the government’s position on abortion and we want you to

[00:15:57] refer women for free or low-cost abortion at this telephone number and it has to be in big bold font as soon as

[00:16:03] they walk in the door yeah and their viewpoint seems to be whatever the government government endorses is what

[00:16:08] you have to endorse also that’s right yeah this happened with a Kelvin Cochran case to where he had written a book a

[00:16:15] personal devotional book for men and in it there was one sentence on the issue of homosexuality and his boss told him

[00:16:20] look at when you come to work he was working for the fire department right he was a fire chief I believe and when he

[00:16:27] is his uh one of the guys there said when you come to work you leave your beliefs at the

[00:16:33] door essentially which is absurd constitutionally you know so my guest

[00:16:39] today is Dean Broyles please check him out at NC LP law or gets the National

[00:16:44] Center for Law and Policy he works closely with the Alliance defending freedom and what we’re talking about

[00:16:50] today is specifically what’s going on with sex education in the San Diego Unified School District but this is

[00:16:56] something that’s countrywide you know these attempts to essentially be more

[00:17:03] aggressive sexually and this is a this is a push in the whole culture it’s where is this coming from Dean and I

[00:17:10] talked briefly off the air about SP forty eight and the whole idea of you

[00:17:15] can choose what gender you are you know marriage is something that’s kind of a

[00:17:22] traditional social agreement that’s kind of passe it’s not necessarily something

[00:17:27] that people need to have and it’s kind of pushing the Judeo Christian morals

[00:17:32] out what’s that what the attempt is here so where is where is this how does the

[00:17:38] sex-education push to legitimize pornography and so far how does that fit in with SB 40 a and all these other

[00:17:45] movements that are kind of coming together aggressively against judeo-christian morals yeah so you know

[00:17:52] we’re asking where it’s coming from and who’s pushing this agenda generally it’s

[00:17:58] radical leftist and the progressive movement that really seeks to bring

[00:18:03] progress beyond or move beyond judeo-christian traditions in America

[00:18:09] including how we view sexuality and let’s take for instance issue of maleness and femaleness you know you

[00:18:16] raise the issue of transgenderism well the Bible teaches in Genesis 1:27 that

[00:18:21] God created us in His image male and female yeah so we’re created in the Amagi O’Dea male and female and that

[00:18:28] means that there’s implications from that for human sexual relations and for

[00:18:33] marriage and so the radicals in in in

[00:18:39] the radical elite want to do away with the replace because they believe that’s antiquated and inevitable to the world

[00:18:47] today and it’s really if you’re asking who’s funding this and supporting this it’s George Soros you if you’ve been

[00:18:53] watching the media lately you can see that he donated 18 billion to these radical leftist causes one of the

[00:19:00] biggest things he’s funding right now is comprehensive sex education nationwide and worldwide he wants sex ed to be

[00:19:08] started start to be begun in kindergarten in pre-k I mean that his

[00:19:14] idea of sex education is that we should really sexually awakened and

[00:19:20] over-sexualize kids starting at a very young age and why is that I mean why would anybody want to do that and

[00:19:26] knowing what we know about the damaging effects the impact of sexual abuse and these sorts of things can do to a child

[00:19:32] why why do that why I mean there’s I think there’s spiritual reasons why it’s

[00:19:37] happening because I believe in spiritual warfare but there’s also kind of political social reasons to do it I mean

[00:19:44] the fastest way to deconstruct the conservative movement is to train

[00:19:49] the next generation that there is no God and there are no morals right father

[00:19:55] just dust gets key said in the brothers camera cameras off if God is dead then everything is

[00:20:01] permitted right yeah and so their idea is if they want ultimate freedom which

[00:20:07] which is not freedom its license it’s sexual license and that’s an interesting

[00:20:12] point you’re bringing there what’s the difference between license and freedom that’s know we’re coming up on a real quick break here we’re gonna take a

[00:20:18] break for about 10 seconds or so 10-15 seconds just so Dina and I can catch our breath but when we come back we’re gonna

[00:20:23] talk about the difference between license and freedom or licentiousness and freedom we’re gonna be right back

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[00:21:07] welcome back to educate for life I’m your host Kevin Conover my web sites educate for life dot o-r-g you can pick

[00:21:14] up a recording of this show it’ll be up on YouTube the recording there’s also recordings of tons of other shows you know the subject I’m talking

[00:21:21] about with Dean today is a subject that has been ongoing I mean historically you can you can follow the Domino path right

[00:21:29] and see how all these changes have taken place it’s it didn’t start with

[00:21:35] redefining marriage but that was a big part in what’s happening and now we have you know where people can redefine their

[00:21:41] gender at will a kid can use a high school locker room of the opposite sex a

[00:21:49] friend of mine I interviewed not too long ago was actually fired because he would not call a boy a girl a boy who

[00:21:55] wanted to be called a boy and the school was mandating that he called this girl a boy and her parents didn’t even know

[00:22:03] that’s what’s incredible about it he or she is a miner and the school said you are not allowed to tell her parents that

[00:22:10] she wants to be caught a boy and there’s all kinds of stuff like this going on I interviewed not too long ago Denise

[00:22:15] Schick you can check out the interview I did with her she was raised by a chant transgender father and you know I asked

[00:22:21] her I said to her I said Denise if somebody said to you big deal if

[00:22:27] somebody wants to be the opposite sex who cares what would you say to them and she told me I believe it’s around 40% of

[00:22:35] those who have had a sex change operation actually try to commit suicide and I believe it’s around 30% actually

[00:22:41] achieve that and Dean that’s the same stat that you’ve heard also that’s right yeah I mean if you look at the results

[00:22:49] of transgender sex reassignment surgery horrific and that’s why John Hopkins University who did first did sex

[00:22:56] reassignment years ago stopped doing it for over 30 years because the results were so horrible and one of the top

[00:23:02] psychiatrist in the u.s. dr. Paul McHugh you probably heard about him a write about his work yeah he’s come out very strongly against

[00:23:10] transgenderism and he says to teach transgenderism to children and doctrine

[00:23:16] Aidan that it’s okay it’s a morally good thing he calls it child abuse oh and a lot of

[00:23:22] pediatricians agree with him yeah because event essentially what you’re doing is you’re actually hurting the child you’re not helping the child

[00:23:28] you’re you’re actually working against them and I actually had a quote here

[00:23:33] that I was going to read which is specifically that dr. McHugh it says

[00:23:40] here given that close to 80 percent of such children would abandon their confusion and grow naturally into a adult life if untreated these medical

[00:23:47] interviewed interventions come close to child abuse so essentially what he’s saying is you know sometimes a boy will dress up like

[00:23:54] a girl or a girl will dress up like a boy but these things naturally work themselves out over this room that’s

[00:24:01] right yeah and so by telling them that okay then you’re a girl or you’re a boy because just because you you know dress

[00:24:08] this way of a few times or or whatever you’re even acting more feminine or more masculine doesn’t automatically mean oh

[00:24:14] okay I’m the opposite sex now well you heard what happened in Rockland probably with the kindergarten class up there or

[00:24:21] they brought out a little boy in a dress read a few stories about transgender promoting transgenderism to kindergarten

[00:24:27] kids without their parents knowledge or consent then brought out this boy introduced his new name and later on

[00:24:33] they punished a girl in the playground because she used the wrong name in the wrong pronoun because the boy wanted to

[00:24:40] be a girl and a lot of children are coming home from these classes you know

[00:24:46] terrified that they may be a boy trapped in a girl’s body or a girl trapped in a

[00:24:51] boy’s body and they don’t even understand their own sexuality yet and yet they’re being confused about gender very early on and

[00:24:59] it’s it’s it’s a horrific thing that’s happening to kids now yeah I yeah I read

[00:25:04] the same thing about a woman in teacher in Texas who this was happening and she was trying to follow the school’s instructions and essentially there was a

[00:25:11] little girl who said I’m a boy and she said okay all the class has to call this girl a boy and then the next day the

[00:25:18] girl goes no I’m a girl and the kids are like whoa what’s happening are you oh you’re a girl are you a boy or a girl

[00:25:24] I mean imagine the confusion that’s right and then you get into talking about things like sexuality or sex

[00:25:30] education and you’re gonna have even incredible amounts of confusion and ultimately I

[00:25:36] mean where does this take you I mean you know you if you become just a moral

[00:25:42] relativist when it comes to your sexual morals I mean you’re gonna end up with all kinds of problems regarding STDs and

[00:25:49] pregnancy and everything else well the California School Board associations and others are starting to put out policies

[00:25:55] that would if adopted by school districts in California this happened in Coronado recently I helped esther valdez

[00:26:02] fight this there or they were going to start punishing teachers and students for using the wrong pronouns you know

[00:26:09] supposedly the wrong pronouns for people who considered themselves transgender well you think step back from that and

[00:26:16] look at it from a First Amendment perspective to force you to say

[00:26:21] something about someone else that’s biologically and physically not true is

[00:26:26] that not a violation of your free speech rights as a teacher or as a student in that classroom yeah I mean it is it’s

[00:26:32] compelled government speech was exactly what we’re fighting and the masterpiece cake shop case and the nifflas thing so

[00:26:39] this this whole push is insane yeah and what’s really you know what it reminds me of is you know there’s this whole big

[00:26:44] thing going on right now with the Flat Earth thing it’s all over the internet it’s crazy imagine if a if a science professor

[00:26:51] write whatever cosmology or whatever was told you must teach that the earth is

[00:26:58] flat I mean there would flip up flip out it’s in direct contradiction to everything we know about science and and

[00:27:04] everything right the world and everything but yet essentially that’s what we’re doing we’re telling people you must pretty much live in my lie

[00:27:13] right that’s right you will call them a boy even though they’re obviously a girl

[00:27:19] and we will all pretend together for this person that they are the opposite

[00:27:25] sex well that’s if you read George Orwell’s 1984 that’s exactly what the Ministry of

[00:27:31] Truth does is they called they call things the opposite of what they are

[00:27:37] right that’s precisely what’s happening here and it’s being forced on all of us and we’re all kind of

[00:27:44] an emperor is you know is wearing no clothes it type scenario we’re all saying yes it’s a boy or no it’s a girl

[00:27:51] that we’re all agreeing with this insanity yeah and we’ve got to fight it and push back because if you think about

[00:27:58] it just stepping back from the legal and public policy implications for a minute just think about practically if we end

[00:28:05] the sexual binary the gender binary in other words meant we end maleness and femaleness and wipe it out as a category

[00:28:12] that has broad and far-reaching implications across the board not just for public education but well beyond

[00:28:17] education so think about a whole generation went raised on the lie that boys can be whatever they want to be and

[00:28:25] girls can be whatever they want to be and there really is no gender it’s all what you in your brain and what your

[00:28:30] thoughts are and what your feelings are I mean the cultural insanity and dysfunction that that will lead to I

[00:28:36] mean I don’t think we can even imagine how bad it will be and so if grandparents love their kids

[00:28:43] if pastors love kids if parents love kids we’ve got to draw a red line in the

[00:28:48] sand and say stop the insanity yeah you will not pass this line and what are you what are you what is the

[00:28:55] feedback you’re getting I mean when you approach churches and so forth are you finding that the majority of people that

[00:29:00] hear about this are like yeah I agree with you of course well early on we

[00:29:07] didn’t get a lot of help and we sent out letters to hundreds of evangelical pastors throughout San Diego County and

[00:29:13] only one or two stepped up to help and it was really discouraging and disappointing recently though we’ve been reaching out

[00:29:20] to the african-american pastors we’ve been reaching out to the Chinese pastors we’ve been reaching out to the Latino

[00:29:25] pastors and any pastor who will talk to us and like I said earlier within 5 to

[00:29:31] 10 minutes of sitting down and walking through the problems of the curriculum they they’re ready to storm the gates of

[00:29:37] hell they’re mad and they’re ready to sign the petition get everybody to sign the petition and show up at board

[00:29:44] meetings and complain and that’s what we’re moving towards that’s fantastic so where explain to us where well we’re

[00:29:49] actually coming up on another quick break here so please stay with us Dina’s going to tell us you know where they are

[00:29:54] in this current fight how many people have signed the is currently and what do we need to do

[00:29:59] in order to get pornography out of the sex education curriculum what do we need to do to get the idea that part of

[00:30:07] contraception is just having an abortion so we’re going to be right back and Dean

[00:30:14] is going to share with us what how you can get involved and how you can make a difference we’ll be right back

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[00:31:41] welcome back thanks for being here today is actually Monday here and it’s 442 in

[00:31:48] the studio here we’re down in the K prz studio and nice and cold in here like

[00:31:55] usual so huh but Dean is with me Dean Broyles from the National Center for Law

[00:32:01] and Policy n CLP law org and for the first time we are actually streaming the

[00:32:07] show this is the first time I’ve ever done this so Dean you are the you are the guinea pig here whether you like it

[00:32:12] or not but it’s going good we’ve got these cameras here pointing at us and Jordans running everything so quick

[00:32:19] shout out to Jordan for putting this all together couldn’t have done it without them and if you want to support this

[00:32:25] radio program I would love your support it costs a decent amount of money to stream it live but we really want to

[00:32:30] make a bigger impact we want to have people like Dean on the air who we get who get to share what’s going on out in

[00:32:36] the community to a broader audience so that we can kind of pull together and as the body of Christ make a difference in

[00:32:42] this world you know the church Christ ordained the church because together you

[00:32:48] can have a far greater impact then you can all fight in your little battles out on your own and that’s what the church

[00:32:54] is for and so it’s for encouragement and also to be a brighter light out there

[00:33:00] and what we’re talking about today if you’re just tuning in is the sex ed curriculum in the San Diego Unified

[00:33:06] School District it is out of control and Dean when we’re going to tell people

[00:33:11] what they can do but can you share a little bit more about what’s being pushed in the curriculum that people

[00:33:17] should be aware of sure we’ve talked about pornography and you know what was

[00:33:24] shown before was an amazing linked cartoon porn about Julie Julie

[00:33:31] melons and miles long and I won’t go into a lot of details about that but it’s pretty explicit graphic cartoon

[00:33:36] porn that links to other foreign I mentioned earlier that it’s not age-appropriate it’s over sexualizing

[00:33:43] young kids the program that we have starting in San Diego Unified in sixth

[00:33:48] grade they’re actually teaching the same program in Oceanside and they want to start it

[00:33:53] in kindergarten but after parents protested they decided well we’re gonna start in third grade so that’s a lot better this is yeah this is the

[00:34:00] direction we’re heading is hyper sexualizing over sexualizing and children it’s dehumanizing because it

[00:34:07] encourages kids to primarily see each other as sex objects for personal pleasure and sexual gratification and as

[00:34:15] opposed to in the amalga day in the image of God is beautiful unique and valuable human beings it’s very graphic

[00:34:22] and promotes taboo sex there’s detailed descriptions and vaginal oral and anal

[00:34:29] sex and a number of other things I won’t go into detail here it’s gender blurring as we’ve talked about it promotes

[00:34:35] actively promotes transgenderism is normal and healthy when we know that it’s not and just Minh doing so as I

[00:34:45] mentioned earlier it attacks maleness and female and it’s the gender binary from Genesis 1:21 27 it violates the

[00:34:53] freedom of speech and compelled speech as I mentioned it promotes abortion as you mentioned in the intro because it

[00:34:59] tells kids that hey abortion is a very natural normal thing to do if you have an unwanted or an unintended pregnancy

[00:35:06] and kids are told in our schools that they have the right to go off campus and get abortions at Planned Parenthood and

[00:35:12] other places without their parents knowledge or consent and I just want to mention that that’s not true districts

[00:35:20] can have a policy that notifies parents and obtains their consent before abortions are occurring but Planned

[00:35:26] Parenthood and the ACLU have lied to a lot of school districts San Diego used to have a good policy but they reversed

[00:35:32] it several years ago it’s anti marriage as I mentioned earlier because it separates marriage from sex and says hey

[00:35:40] you can be having sex all you want in in all these dangerous ways it’s it’s

[00:35:45] perfectly normal and fine and so it undermines sexual purity and abstinence which I believe that with pornography

[00:35:53] will lead to the increased breakdown of the family and I believe this is potentially civilization ending stuff if

[00:36:00] we don’t get a handle on it yeah and I it’s interesting that you bring that up because there was a Harvard researcher who who studied the

[00:36:08] breakdown of civilizations and essentially what he found was that the precursor to the breakdown of a civilization almost a hundred percent of

[00:36:15] the time was sexual promiscuity on a on a huge scale and that’s what we’re

[00:36:21] seeing is we’re seeing a culture that is making sex everything right it’s driving

[00:36:27] everything we have multi-billion dollar companies getting their money through

[00:36:32] pornography promoting pornography it’s creating human trafficking you have huge problems with abortion because of that

[00:36:38] and then you have the breakdown of the family all of this leads to the breakdown of a culture that’s right and

[00:36:43] if you read the rise and fall of the Roman civilization you will see that I mean if you look at history you can see

[00:36:48] that over and over again and it’s almost like we think oh now we’re in the 20th century we can we can overcome you know

[00:36:55] natural law and the allottee yeah that’s baked into the universe finally it’s just it’s blatantly

[00:37:02] anti-christian it teaches kids that religious resources about sex like their pastor youth pastor Christian parents or

[00:37:09] other religious parents those resources are biased and unreliable right and it

[00:37:15] uses those terms biased and and it calls them unreliable well all these secular resources like you know George Soros

[00:37:22] funded stuff Planned Parenthood a cou advocates for youth those are reliable

[00:37:28] yeah and so a lot of what they’re trying to do is wrap themselves in science and

[00:37:33] and say oh we’re the ones giving the facts and the good information everybody

[00:37:38] else you know especially you Christians you crazy Christians you’re giving bad

[00:37:44] information to your kids and you’re misleading yeah but in fact all the social science data is actually on our side that’s right by far I mean the

[00:37:53] family is what keeps a society healthy and as soon as that family begins to break down which all these these

[00:37:59] attempts this is what they’re doing they’re breaking down the family you’re creating teen pregnancy you’re getting

[00:38:04] girls pregnant at a young age teen pregnancy is the number one predictor of poverty so you have all these problems

[00:38:11] that are being created and it’s almost as if they’re just shoving all the social science to the side and saying no

[00:38:16] we don’t believe that anymore yeah the message they’re giving the kids is do whatever you want with whomever

[00:38:22] you want and ignore the consequences put blinders on to the consequences so in

[00:38:27] that regard these these sex edge programs are not fact-based right

[00:38:32] because they’re not telling kids about the consequences of anal sex for example yeah well you know they supposedly talk

[00:38:39] about HIV but but but the way they do it is very weak and very irresponsible and

[00:38:45] and you know I always throw this stat out there because I feel like people just need to be made aware you know 6-3

[00:38:50] % of all new HIV AIDS cases are among male homosexuals and people say well there you just need better sex education

[00:38:57] no this is not true there’s something inherent to the issue of homosexuality

[00:39:02] 64 percent of all new syphilis cases are among male homosexuals there’s a reason

[00:39:08] why the Bible says don’t engage in this behavior it’s because God loves people God wants people to be blessed and so

[00:39:14] he’s given us these laws the Bible says those who obey my commands will live by

[00:39:20] them what it’s saying is hey you will be blessed when you live by the standards of outlined I love you I’ve given this

[00:39:25] to you for your benefit so Dean what what can they do I see here down here says please do three things what do

[00:39:31] people need to do here okay well first of all we want them to become informed and so if you want information for your

[00:39:39] church or for your community or for your organization please contact us at the

[00:39:44] National Center for Law and Policy asked for sherry and sherry my assistant will email you and forward you all this

[00:39:50] information so we’ve developed a one-page fact sheet that quickly explains the problems with the

[00:39:56] curriculum we have links to the curriculum don’t believe us read it yourself and then and then we also have

[00:40:03] a church bulletin insert that pastors and churches can use to talk about the issue from the pulpit and so we’re

[00:40:09] specifically asking churches in particular can form their congregation to get the word out for us to ask their

[00:40:16] congregational members to sign the paper petition or they can go to SD u SD on on

[00:40:24] change.org and find our online petition which is also in Spanish and sign sign

[00:40:29] the petition either in paper their church or online and ultimately we want to have a massive resistance up out

[00:40:36] and we’re going to present the petitions on our target date is February 27th at

[00:40:42] the board meeting to talk to them about this issue okay that’s great well we’re coming up on another break here we have

[00:40:48] I do want to talk a little bit more about some of the issues going on within the church and why churches aren’t as

[00:40:54] involved as they could be and please if you if you this is touching your heart please get involved get angry you know

[00:41:01] don’t don’t send in your anger but get angry and you know get out there and start spreading the word they need

[00:41:07] 25,000 signatures by February 15th so that’s not too far away we need your

[00:41:13] help to make this happen we’re going to be right back

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[00:44:13] serving the Lord all over the world in different capacities my guest today is Dean Broyles he’s with the National

[00:44:19] Center for law on policy NC LP law Oh our G and also Dean on the sheet right

[00:44:29] here you’re looking to have people sign this petition hopefully 25,000 signatures by February

[00:44:34] 15th and you want to present that on February 27th is that what you said that’s right okay and that these are so

[00:44:42] if they want to get a hold of you they can contact sherry seven six zero seven

[00:44:47] four seven four five to nine or seawalker at NC L P Law o RG & Dean when

[00:44:55] we were when we were talking off the air a little bit you were talking about how sometimes it’s a struggle to get

[00:45:00] churches to get involved and so forth and you’re explaining to me you know what’s going on there can you share a

[00:45:06] little bit about that yeah I mean one of the biggest frustrations in my work is that the church in general has become

[00:45:14] kind of pacified and disengaged and not willing to fight what’s right and

[00:45:22] this issue of protecting kids from harm and this level of harm I think is so important that my view is if this

[00:45:29] doesn’t wake up the church and get us involved nothing will yeah and so like you said

[00:45:36] earlier when the church works together like on prop 8 for example we have

[00:45:42] tremendous power and we can accomplish tremendous things yeah but if we if we’re too busy or too lazy

[00:45:49] or too afraid or don’t have enough love because I think a lot of the lack of

[00:45:55] involvement I really can’t understand is not just a fear of man or fear of other

[00:46:00] people it’s also a lack of love we don’t love other people enough to share the

[00:46:05] gospel with them anymore we don’t love other people enough to speak out against injustice yeah it’s gonna even affect

[00:46:12] our kids or grandkids so we need to become bold and courageous and allow our

[00:46:18] love to overcome our fear absolutely and so with would pastors in specific pacifically though you know the initial

[00:46:27] response that pleas for help were really we were ignored I mean these these were

[00:46:32] letters that were sent out to all evangelical pastors throughout San Diego County through the pastor’s rapid

[00:46:38] response team that worked with my friend Jim Garland sent out two letters and nobody almost nobody responded and it

[00:46:45] broke my heart but part of my my thought as to why that is and I’ve talked to

[00:46:50] Josh McDowell about this because he’s been doing a lot of writing and speaking about pornography yes–if Utley yeah is

[00:46:56] that if you look at the stats nearly 80% of Christian men in our pews are porn

[00:47:03] addicted and and and most of the pastors are so probably roughly 60% or more the

[00:47:09] pastor’s are porn addicted to yeah so I am reaching out to porn addicted pastors asking them to fight pornography that’ll

[00:47:18] be influencing these kids lives and part of the reason I think we’re not getting a bigger response there’s a lot of them

[00:47:24] are morally and compromised themselves and it’s breaks my heart but but even

[00:47:29] even porn addicted pastors can fight porn to protect kids I mean it you don’t have to be a perfect night

[00:47:35] armor to fight this stuff it’s a no-brainer folks yeah that’s right you know and that’s the thing too is that you know that’s the way the devil works

[00:47:42] you know what he does is he gets in there and he says look it you’re not worth who are you to fight against

[00:47:48] something that you yourself are struggling with and so he just wants to shut Christians down he wants them to be

[00:47:54] out of the picture and that’s what he’s doing he’s killing the church from the inside through guilt and shame and all

[00:48:01] these things and I just want to bring up a great resource it’s called the conquer series if you if you have not checked it

[00:48:07] out it’s absolutely phenomenal it’s one of the best resources out there that I’ve seen also a great thing for your

[00:48:14] computers at home is covenant eyes both covenant eyes and the conquer series are just incredible weapons and what’s

[00:48:20] happening is a lot of Christians are waking up to the to the horrible plague of pornography in our culture today and

[00:48:27] they’re beginning to fight back and there are even people that are secular that are outside of the church that are

[00:48:32] recognizing just how incredibly addicting and devastating pornography is

[00:48:38] to relationships so you know we need to just push forward and go Lord work work

[00:48:45] here go and go back and be on our knees in prayer and ask the Lord to stir our hearts to love people more like Dena’s

[00:48:51] saying so that’s that’s fantastic and where are you in the current court cases

[00:48:57] we’re almost out of time here but where are you in the current court cases with Jack Phillips the the the Baker and also

[00:49:05] the other one that has to do with the Pregnancy Care Centers you know so Jack Phillips oral arguments before the court

[00:49:11] were on December 5th and we’re expecting a decision on her before the end of June okay in prayer about that also yeah be

[00:49:18] praying especially for Justice Kennedy he was very sympathetic to Jack Phillips and I wrote a article about that as far

[00:49:25] as nifflas that’s a big prayer project to oral arguments will probably be sometime in

[00:49:31] March or April at the latest and we’re expecting again a decision dollar before the end of June that’s great okay well

[00:49:38] Dean it’s been a real blessing having you on the program today and SP 48 real

[00:49:44] quick before we get off the air explain SB 48 and and your on that real quick teens sure just real

[00:49:50] quick because it’s rolling out statewide SB 48 is the what’s known as a gay hero

[00:49:58] history law that in 2011 passed and it basically says that history and social

[00:50:05] science courses need to recognize the contributions of various groups including LGBT individuals well what’s

[00:50:11] happened with that is is a pretty radical thing those promoting radical sexual Liberty got a hold of the law and

[00:50:18] got together with the state of California and developed this framework this evil evil framework that that takes

[00:50:27] where we are today with same-sex marriage and says oh now that we got same-sex marriage your

[00:50:33] Supreme Court we want to in California use this as a transformational moment to

[00:50:39] now promote all these other things including transgenderism not just in sex

[00:50:45] ed but throughout the curriculum and including its history in social science so the law is is about about a 5 on the

[00:50:52] scale 1 to 10 but the actual framework is horrible and the textbooks that were developed just recently out of it are

[00:50:58] horrible but you can fight it and we’ve got a legal memorandum opinion and talking points on our website at NC LP

[00:51:05] law Oregon our resources page please read those check those out because each school district can resist the framework

[00:51:12] and can resist the textbooks and not and doesn’t have to adopt them they’ve been lied to and told they have to follow the

[00:51:18] framework but they don’t when in fact it’s not mandatory that’s right that’s great okay Dean Broyles National Center for

[00:51:23] Law and Policy we are lucky to have him here he’s in Southern California and San Diego here and he’s a great resource if

[00:51:29] you yourself need information about you know what’s allowed legally and so forth that are or how to fight something

[00:51:35] that’s unjust please reach out to him he’s a blessing to us so thank you again

[00:51:41] Dean for being here today great to be with you thank you okay we’ll be back again next Saturday I am gonna be entering interviewing bill

[00:51:47] wells mayor of El Cajon we’re gonna be talking about some of the issues he’s dealing with so I hope you’ll join us

[00:51:52] next time thanks for being here I hope you enjoyed the live stream and we’ll continue to improve that shout out

[00:51:59] again to jordan kirk Kirkham right Jordan he’s busy recording so we’ll talk to you

[00:52:05] next time god bless you have a great day

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