[00:00:00] welcome to educate for life I’m your host Kevin Conover my web sites educate for life dot o-r-g and I’ve got a really

[00:00:06] special guest on the air with me today let’s see if you can guess who my guest is today from these clues okay ready

[00:00:12] here we go he had he earned an Applied Science degree from the Queensland Institute of Technology he started his

[00:00:18] career teaching science he moved to America in 1987 from Australia

[00:00:23] he opened a seventy-five thousand square foot Creation Museum in 2007 which has

[00:00:29] now had over four million guests in 2016 he decided that a Creation Museum was

[00:00:35] not enough he built a full-size Noah’s Ark according to the dimensions given in the Bible spanning 510 feet long 85 feet

[00:00:43] wide and 51 feet high it’s in Williams Williamstown Kentucky and five years ago

[00:00:49] this week he debated Bill Nye the Science Guy arguing for the truth of creation and that evolution is not true

[00:00:56] so far during that debate somewhere around three to four million people tuned in to watch the debate live and

[00:01:02] since then somewhere around 20 million people have watched it all together over seven million views on YouTube alone if

[00:01:09] you haven’t figured it out by now my guest today is Ken Ham he is the CEO of Answers in Genesis Ken thanks so much

[00:01:16] for being on the program today hi Kevin hey it’s great to be with you yeah what a big blessing you know I

[00:01:22] think it’s incredible you know all that you’ve done here in America you decided

[00:01:28] hey America needs help I’m gonna leave Australia I’m gonna come to America or is that right actually when people say

[00:01:38] to me you know why why did you go to the Creation Museum and the Ark in America aren’t you coming to America love it’s

[00:01:43] obvious that God brought us here but I also believe they brought us here because this is the country which is

[00:01:49] really the center of the Christian world still and center of the business world and it enables us to impact more people

[00:01:56] and really reach the world with the message of God’s Word in the gospel that’s fantastic and you know the Ark is

[00:02:04] absolutely incredible what you’ve done there and building that and everything and I just wanted to you know I want to

[00:02:10] make sure our guests know about it it’s amazing to me how many people still don’t know about the ARC’s existence but it’s an incredible

[00:02:16] tool that you’ve got inspired you to build along with your team to reach

[00:02:22] people with the gospel of Jesus Christ and what was it that instigated that what was it that you thought to yourself

[00:02:29] you know what I’m gonna build a full-size Ark what started that process you know it really goes back to my

[00:02:35] teaching days in Australia in 1975 I became a science teacher and when I took

[00:02:41] the first science class in the public school students know as a Christian and they said so how can you be a Christian

[00:02:47] when we know the Bible’s not true they don’t know the Bible’s not true well because of evolution in their textbooks

[00:02:53] and because there’s no way Noah could have fitted all those animals on the ark and you know over the years as I have

[00:03:00] spoken around the world and all sorts of places one of the most asked questions is how could now get all the animals on

[00:03:07] the ark in fact Bill Nye brought it up at the debate at the Creation Museum here he mocked me for believing in

[00:03:12] Noah’s Ark and said you know how can I can believe in Noah’s argued you need millions of species on the ark which is

[00:03:18] simply not true so you know we built the Creation Museum because that burden goes back to my teaching days and seeing

[00:03:24] students only go to evolutionist museums and wanting to have a Creation Museum and really the Creation Museum in the

[00:03:31] Ark they’re the two leading Christian themed attractions in the world but it’s

[00:03:36] a way of taking a message at the message of God’s Word and the gospel to a

[00:03:42] culture that it’s different to what the church is doing for instance and you

[00:03:49] know only 18% of Millennials in this country go to church and so how can we

[00:03:55] impact an increasingly secularized culture well let’s build attractions

[00:04:00] that answer skeptical questions that people have and it helps them to get

[00:04:06] those answers and does it in a professional way the same quality that Hollywood would do it so people comment

[00:04:14] that it’s the quality of Hollywood it’s the quality of Disney or even better people would say and let’s do something

[00:04:21] that people are going to really say I want to see that and you know people have heard of Noah’s Ark all around the

[00:04:26] world and you have these little know Nioxin gift shops their little box a box with drive sticking out the chimney and

[00:04:32] all the rest of it and people are familiar with the account of the flood because there are flood legends and

[00:04:38] cultures all over the world so while we’re building the Creation Museum we talked about what could we do next and

[00:04:44] that has been one of the most asked questions how can you believe in Noah’s Ark and your people very familiar with it and so we said let’s build a

[00:04:51] life-size Ark and that’s what we did it’s the biggest timber frame to structure in the world one and a half

[00:04:57] times the length of a football field all three decks are filled with world-class

[00:05:02] exhibits and people come from all over the world and we have all sorts of other

[00:05:07] things as well we have a zoo and we have other outside features and we’re just opening a 2,500 seat multi-purpose

[00:05:14] Center and that with the Creation Museum that’s 45 minutes away we have reached

[00:05:20] millions of people and 30% of those who come a non-christian so it’s an incredible way of outreaching to the

[00:05:28] culture yeah that is amazingly effective I mean nobody can argue I’m sure you had

[00:05:33] a lot of naysayers a lot of people saying there’s no way this is gonna work what are you doing wasting all your time and energy and money on something like

[00:05:40] this but now in retrospect looking back on this and the impact that it’s had it’s just phenomenal well yeah and we

[00:05:46] had nice areas not just not just secularists and you know people who are

[00:05:52] against us from the secular world but also people from the church and there are people said well you can’t build

[00:05:59] something like Disney Hollywood you know and and impact people with the gospel

[00:06:05] but we do and they know those that said look if you’re overtly on about the

[00:06:10] Bible and all about the gospel people come and come you’re not going to you’re not going to reach people you certainly won’t reach non-christians actually

[00:06:16] non-christians come in droves we have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of buses from different companies they put

[00:06:24] on these tours and you know some of these tools I mean you smile at this but there are two of I just saw another one

[00:06:30] recently where they said they’re going to go to the casino then the Creation

[00:06:35] Museum then they’ll go to the zoo Cincinnati Zoo and maybe the Newport Aquarium or something or the Bourbon do

[00:06:41] still refused and and you know it’s interesting that 80% of the two of us

[00:06:49] that come our secular tours and these people are amazed and and they say that

[00:06:57] the quality is amazing I’ve spoken to some of the non-christians that have come and they say you know what it’s

[00:07:03] just amazing to see this and we saw information that we’ve never thought of before and it challenged our thinking

[00:07:09] and so you know it is having the impact I think it’s a greater impact than we

[00:07:14] even thought and so we praise the Lord for that you know if you bill if you build it they will come

[00:07:21] well they’ll come to an ark that’s for sure we know that well yeah I think that’s

[00:07:26] incredible because you know a lot of churches they’re wondering like how do we do a better job of reaching out to people how do we do a better job of

[00:07:33] impacting the people that need it the most right Christ said I didn’t come to save the the people that already think

[00:07:40] they know it all I came to save the Lost right and so yeah and you know Kevin you

[00:07:46] know one way I know that the Ark and the Creation Museum are so impactful because

[00:07:53] because of the way the atheists hate what we’re doing and they are so upset

[00:07:58] did you know recently the Freedom From Religion Foundation that are basically a group of atheists and bully people all

[00:08:04] across America to get rid of anything Christian they wrote letters to a thousand public schools this is the

[00:08:11] second time they’ve done it a thousand public schools in five states surrounding the Ark and warned them if

[00:08:19] you dare bring any of your students to the Ark on a field trip well you know we’re going to they implied they’re

[00:08:24] going to sue them that’s illegal that it’s against the First Amendment they are so concerned that that people might

[00:08:33] actually students might actually get to hear some things that they don’t normally hear and they’re thinking be

[00:08:38] challenged the fact that the Atheist opposes so much tells me hey we must be

[00:08:43] doing good absolutely I mean you know what’s amazing to me is I teach in a Christian school but I grew up in a public school and I’m always amazed how

[00:08:50] many kids are dying to hear truth they’re dying to hear the information that oh ya know there are

[00:08:55] is a historical event the arc would work the arc would flow you know there’s been all these studies done answering all

[00:09:00] these people’s questions and if you’re listening today because like ken is saying one of the biggest questions people have is what about the flood how

[00:09:07] would that all work how would you fit all the animals where did all the water go and Answers in Genesis Answers in

[00:09:12] Genesis org please go and visit their website I’ve used it numerous times to

[00:09:18] find answers to the – the hard questions that people ask and they’re not just these are not shallow questions these

[00:09:24] are questions about things like speciation and and you know how did the Kangaroos get to Australia off the ark

[00:09:29] and all kinds of stuff that people ask and the answers are there for those that are willing to look and my guest today

[00:09:35] is Ken Ham we’re coming up on a quick break here we’re only going to be a minute but stay with us and we’re gonna let him answer some more questions about

[00:09:41] noah’s flood the ark the ark encounter and also how you can make an impact if

[00:09:46] you’re a christian out there today and you’re wondering hey how can i make a difference what can you do to be a light

[00:09:51] to your own community to your neighbors to your families your friends your co-workers so stay with us my guest today is Ken Ham we’re gonna be right

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[00:11:04] thanks for listening today this is educate for life I’m your host Kevin Conover my websites educate for life

[00:11:09] gorg and I teach apologetics and this is an apologetics radio program it’s a defence of the Christian faith giving

[00:11:15] people answers you know apologizing apologizing isn’t necessarily about

[00:11:21] saying you’re sorry at least the original meaning it’s about answering people and giving a reason for

[00:11:28] the hope that lies within you and my guest today is Ken Ham he’s been doing this all his life his website is Answers

[00:11:33] in Genesis org has an incredible ministry that’s focus is on helping people understand the truth of God’s

[00:11:39] Word and answering the honest questions that people have about hey how did this all work and so Ken I think it’d be

[00:11:47] fantastic for our listeners to hear a little bit about some of the questions that are answered by visiting the

[00:11:53] Creation Museum and the Ark exhibit and you speak all over the place – what kind

[00:11:59] of questions do you answer for people that that they struggle with we know that’s the interesting thing at the

[00:12:05] Creation Museum in the Ark Encounter what we wanted to do is make sure that we answered for families for kids for

[00:12:12] adults pertained the most asked questions that people ask today that it really attacks on the Bible that there’s

[00:12:19] skeptical questions that really around it saying see how can you trust the Bible and you know there’s not travel

[00:12:26] all over the world it doesn’t matter what country I’ve been in it can be a third world country when people know

[00:12:32] you’re on about the Bible on about Christianity ask the same basic questions you believe the Bible how do you know that God will where did God

[00:12:38] come from well well wait am I where all the races of people come from and and

[00:12:44] where did black people and white people come from and have now get all the animals on the ark and is there any

[00:12:50] evidence full of the flood and where he can get his wife and we answer all those questions dinosaurs with a dinosaur

[00:12:56] exhibit in fact that the Creation Museum and you just give you an idea you know when I debated Bill Nye five years ago

[00:13:03] and millions of people have seen that debate but one of the things he did was mock me for believing in Noah’s Ark

[00:13:09] saying that are there were millions of species that would need to be on board and how silly it was you know for me to

[00:13:15] believe that that could have been real history but actually that that’s what our children are gonna hear and we

[00:13:22] need to give them the answers and it’s not millions of species it was only the land animal kinds that went on the ark

[00:13:29] their land dwelling air-breathing animals wasn’t sea creatures and the

[00:13:34] Bible says two of each kind or seven pairs of some but what if the word kind to me and it comes from the Hebrew mean

[00:13:42] and when you look at the word kind we would say from all the scientific research we’ve done that it corresponds

[00:13:48] in our classification system phylum class order family genus species well in

[00:13:53] case of indeed kind level in the Bible would correspond more with the family

[00:13:59] level in our classification system so when you look at dogs for instance lots of different species of dogs and

[00:14:05] different generated dogs but we can show how they can all interbreed to one degree or another how they’re all

[00:14:11] connected because there’s all only one dog family so only needed two dogs on

[00:14:16] the ark and because of all the genetic information God had already put in the dog kind after the ark as the dogs

[00:14:23] increased a number moved away from each other different combinations survived better in different areas you get your

[00:14:28] different species it’s it’s called natural selection and it operates on the information already there you know we

[00:14:35] look at the domestic varieties of dogs we’ve have like the poodles and the Chihuahuas and so on and they’ve been

[00:14:41] bred within the last few hundred years and we do that artificially by determining which breeds with which well

[00:14:48] in nature it’s called natural selection and that’s how you get you different species so know I only needed two

[00:14:55] separate kind and far fewer kinds then most people realize and so at the arc we

[00:15:03] had these exhibits we actually teach so that kids and mums and dads can

[00:15:09] understand the concept of kinds and show them that there was tons of room on the

[00:15:14] ark and we answer those questions for them and then we go on with with other questions well what about what about the

[00:15:20] races of people well they’re out any different races role descendants of Adam and Eve there’s only one race and the

[00:15:26] Tower of Babel after the flood was an event caused people to move away from each

[00:15:32] other because they spoke different languages and so different combinations of genes end up in different groups they develop different cultures so there

[00:15:39] aren’t any different races and we explain things like skin colour we’re all the same color just different shades we have a pigment called melanin it’s a

[00:15:47] brown pigment and you can have a lot of it and be very dark but you’re not truly black and you can have a little bit and

[00:15:53] be very light but you’re not truly white there are no white people are no black people we’re all one family we’re all

[00:15:58] equal before God we we’re all sinners we all need salvation in Christ and so we

[00:16:05] have exhibit after exhibit like at the Creation Museum it’s really a walk through the Bible it’s what we call the

[00:16:11] seven C’s of history we start at Genesis and you go through to Revelation and we answer questions all the way through and

[00:16:17] we have all these life-size exhibits and a planetarium and a 4d theater with

[00:16:22] better 3d than you’ll see at the movie theaters with infrared interactive

[00:16:27] glasses and outside the beautiful gardens and we have a petting zoo and we teach about kinds there and some of the

[00:16:33] best lip lines you’ll find anywhere sounds like fun I’m sold I’m on my way

[00:16:41] and then the art you know it’s exhibits and zip lines and in the zoo and and we

[00:16:47] have an animal active stage and all sorts of things so yeah you’ll you know

[00:16:53] I just think it’s incredible and you mentioned there that you’re you’re doing scientific research too so I I read on

[00:17:01] your website that you employ somewhere around 1200 people is that right yes at a peak time because you know in

[00:17:07] the season when people are traveling and the vacation season we have to bring in a lot of seasonal so we haven’t met 750

[00:17:13] full time staff and that increases by another 400 plus as you know as spring

[00:17:20] approaches for a through to the end of the year and we included in that is a

[00:17:25] number of scientists by the way that we have full-time yeah that’s what I wanted to ask you about was you’re not just I

[00:17:32] mean you are actually doing scientific research on for example how many kinds

[00:17:37] of animals would have needed to be on the ark for example and this is not just stuff you’re just you’re actually using

[00:17:44] science to validate and confirm what the Bible teaches and so these scientists what what are

[00:17:53] they studying what are they researching in order to you know show people that the Bible is God is the the God of the

[00:18:00] Bible but he’s also the god of nature and science well let me also say that when people go to our website Answers in

[00:18:06] Genesis know we had tens of thousands of articles there but we also have a research journal it’s free it’s called

[00:18:13] answers research journal you can actually just do a search or if they like that they can get to it through our

[00:18:19] website answers research journal and you’ll see all sorts of papers dealing with radiometric dating and the Grand

[00:18:27] Canyon and then the kinds as you were talking about all research there was years of research by geneticists and

[00:18:34] biologists into the kinds issue and all the papers are there they’re all published and they’re all peer-reviewed

[00:18:40] an incredible amount of cutting-edge research we have a PhD here in astronomy

[00:18:45] dr. Danny Faulkner we have our own Observatory in fact as far as we know it’s the best-equipped biggest Christian

[00:18:51] observatory for a Christian institution in the world we hadn’t never seen a Christian facility have anything like

[00:18:57] this and we have a planetarium we have dr. David Minton who has a PhD in cell biology

[00:19:03] he taught taught students in medical school for many many years dr. georgia proton is a molecular

[00:19:08] geneticist and so she deals with all those issues in regard to DNA and and

[00:19:13] you know look research looking at our humans and chimps really similar or what

[00:19:19] are the differences and showing they’re much more different if you look at it properly then then what students are

[00:19:25] taught we had dr. Terry Mortensen who has a PhD in the history of geology and dr. Andrew Snelling has a PhD in geology

[00:19:32] from Sydney University done incredible out of research an ongoing research on the Grand Canyon and on dating methods

[00:19:39] radiometric dating methods and we just brought on a PhD paleontologist who studies fossils dr. Gabriela Haines and

[00:19:48] she’s from Brazil she got a PhD in Brazil and we have dr. Tommy Mitchell

[00:19:54] and we have a number of other people as well and so we have quite a number of

[00:20:01] scientists here because what I want people understand is you know we want to make sure we are of the highest

[00:20:07] integrity have done the best scientific research we can and we connect with all

[00:20:12] sorts of Christian scientists that work in the secular arena that help us so

[00:20:18] that all this information were given is based upon credible research that’s

[00:20:24] being carefully done so that people know they can trust it that is fantastic again Answers in

[00:20:31] Genesis org there’s so much there that you can use to be able to get a better grip and an understanding of the Bible

[00:20:37] and biblical history and the science that confirms what the Bible teaches

[00:20:43] it’s absolutely phenomenal Answers in Genesis org my guest today is Ken Ham he’s the CEO and founder of Answers in

[00:20:49] Genesis if you’re in Kentucky please visit the Ark exhibit visit the Creation Museum they’ve got all kinds of

[00:20:55] resources there and when we come back and when I ask Ken what’s next what what is he going to be building next so stay

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[00:22:09] hey thanks for being with us today I’m your host Kevin Conover your son to educate for life here in San Diego we

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[00:22:54] we have all kinds of guests that you can look up over a hundred interviews now with different scientists from all over

[00:23:00] the world and different people testifying to how Jesus Christ has impacted their lives my guest today is

[00:23:05] Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis and we’ve been talking all about the Ark Encounter and and the science behind the Bible and

[00:23:11] the flood and can I wanted to ask you you know there’s you you’ve done so much

[00:23:17] what’s next I saw on one of the drawings quite a while ago for the the Ark Encounter and so in the background it

[00:23:23] looked like the Tower of Babel there is are you going to be building the tower Babel next

[00:23:29] well it’s certainly part of a master plan you know one of the things that people say over and over again that the

[00:23:36] Creation Museum in the Ark is it it helps make the Bible come alive there’s nothing like you know seeing a family or

[00:23:45] many families in our shuttle boxes because we have a 4,000 space parking lot at the Ark and then when they’re in

[00:23:50] the shuttle buses we take him on a mile ride across a valley to go up to the ark when they come around the corner and see

[00:23:56] the ark for the first time to hear those whales and hear the kids saying it’s so

[00:24:01] big yeah it really makes the Bible come alive and they get a sense of the reality of it I mean it’s there in the

[00:24:08] Bible but it’s but so you actually build an ark life-size you know and it’s the same here at the crash museum to walk

[00:24:15] through the Bible and to actually see life-size dinosaur models and animatronic dinosaurs and to experience

[00:24:23] that and did it just really helps people to be able to see that and helps parents

[00:24:28] to be able to teach their children and so you know we don’t want to stop I mean when we built the creation museum before

[00:24:34] it was even finished we’re talking about what are we going to do next to impact more people and to help the Bible come

[00:24:39] alive and and to help influence coming generations well then let’s build an ark

[00:24:45] and so we’re keeping on adding things outside the Ark and the museum and so we have a master plan at the Ark where down

[00:24:52] the road as the Lord allows and we keep pushing the edge and stepping out in faith and doing these things eventually

[00:24:58] we have on our master plan a Tower of Babel because people ask me when is that going to be finished and I tell people

[00:25:05] well it’ll never be finished it was a terrible that’s right honestly I was thinking about God might come down and

[00:25:10] confuse confuse all the employees at Answers in Genesis and then and then we

[00:25:19] also got on the plans a first-century village and you know dealing with other

[00:25:28] aspects of the Bible and a ride through the plagues of Egypt maybe and you know

[00:25:33] then there’s all sorts of things that we have planned for the future taking events from the Bible and and and making

[00:25:41] them come alive we also want to build a restaurant just like just like our

[00:25:46] Disney has their character dining we’re gonna have character dining we’ve got plans for that where you can take your

[00:25:53] family and we’ll have Noah people to act as Noah and Noah’s sons and wives and so

[00:25:59] on and come and talk and talk about the flood and right before the flood and after the flood and so on so we’re

[00:26:05] planning all these things because we people more and more are getting very concerned in the culture where culture

[00:26:12] is heading I mean even the advertisements on television almost are rated these days when you see a lot of

[00:26:21] the movies that are coming out of pushing agendas like the gay agenda and the abortion agenda and this sort of

[00:26:26] thing and parents are looking for family-friendly places they can go so

[00:26:32] they don’t have to worry about what their children see or hear and that it will really teach them the truth and that’s what we

[00:26:39] do that’s what we do at the Cruz museum that’s what we do at the arc that’s why we’ll continue adding exhibits adding

[00:26:46] themed attractions we have 800 acres actually at the arc and it’s right at an

[00:26:52] interchange or an interstate 75 which is the second busiest north-south interstate in America so it’s just south

[00:26:58] of Cincinnati and the Creation Museum is 45 minutes from there and it’s ten

[00:27:04] minutes from the Cincinnati Airport and so they’re very easy to get to within the one-day drive of two-thirds of

[00:27:09] America’s population and of course on the west coast they have to come a little further but people come with many

[00:27:16] guests who come from California and Texas and but people come from all over the world and we want to keep doing this

[00:27:23] to keep answering those questions as you said you know apologetics that’s what we

[00:27:28] are but these are actually themed attractions that emphasize apologetics giving answers for what we believe first

[00:27:35] Peter 3:15 to be able to give answers and so they’re apologetic centers that

[00:27:40] they’re fun they’re family-friendly you know it’s interesting when we have some of the biggest and best applying courses

[00:27:47] in the mid Midwest at the arc and the Creation Museum and there were people who said well why why’d you even do that

[00:27:53] and I said because Christians can have fun too yeah that’s right and not only that it also attracts non-christians

[00:28:00] in to do that sort of thing as well and they they’re impacted by what they see

[00:28:05] so why shouldn’t Christians be going this you know why shouldn’t we be as

[00:28:11] good as the world or better and use such attractions because there’s different

[00:28:16] ways that we can present the gospel provided we never compromise God’s words there’s different ways that we can use

[00:28:23] to communicate God’s Word in the gospel to the culture and that’s what we want

[00:28:28] to do to be innovative in what ways we can use with you know that the minds God

[00:28:35] gave us and he has brought all sorts of sculptors and artists and fabricators

[00:28:40] and others to this ministry who want to use their talents for the Lord and they’re thrilled to do this so we’re

[00:28:46] going to continue expanding the arc of the museum and and building other attractions of course the Tower of

[00:28:52] Babel in that’s bill and also deal with the race issue we deal with that anyway in the Ark and the Creation Museum but

[00:28:59] it’ll deal with you know the dispersion of the the nation through ham Shem and Japheth and around the world and we’ve

[00:29:06] even got books written on that showing hey there are names and cultures around the world it goes back to the grandson said Noah yeah obviously turn I read I

[00:29:15] think it was Bodie Hodges book on that what blew my mind away how much you can actually go back in history and through

[00:29:22] tracing the names and actually see historical events and see the historical

[00:29:27] truth that’s laid out also in Scripture and the end the the parallel history

[00:29:33] there that’s happening you know I was gonna ask you you know what concerns you most about

[00:29:39] American culture currently as far as you know you are saying that parents are looking for places to guide their

[00:29:45] children and and that are safe and the culture is increasingly skeptical and

[00:29:51] antagonistic to the Bible it seems what are what are your biggest concerns today

[00:29:57] with what’s happening in the news and everything well let me just say the assistant this might be a surprising

[00:30:03] answer for people but I tell you what I’m mostly concerned about is the church

[00:30:08] because so much of the church has not taught apologetics so many people have

[00:30:15] not been equipped to be able to defend the faith and two-thirds of young people are walking away from the church by the

[00:30:20] time they reach college age very few returning and I believe it’s a failure of the church to answer the skeptical

[00:30:28] questions of the age and what they were taught at school nice to see the kids go to the public schools that have become

[00:30:33] so secular basically churches of atheism

[00:30:39] by and large teaching kids an atheistic worldview and so we’ve lost those

[00:30:44] generations from the church only eighteen percent of Millennials now attend church and the problem today is

[00:30:52] we’ve got much of the church out there saying well okay well you know the Bible says and and and trust in Jesus because

[00:30:59] the Bible says we have generations who had no longer have a respect of the Bible totally inoculated against the Bible and

[00:31:07] what we’re saying is look if you’re going to reach these generations today you’ve got to start at a different point you can’t just go out there and say the

[00:31:14] Bible says they don’t even know what the Bible is I didn’t even even know why you can trust the Bible or or you know what

[00:31:21] would what why should you even consider the Bible many of them don’t even know what the Bible says so we’re going to

[00:31:28] start at a different place and that’s one of the reasons why we do what we do with apologetics we for instance we have

[00:31:34] books called the answers books and we got five of them a hundred and 60 of the most asked questions people ask today

[00:31:41] with detailed answers because when you’re going to witness to somebody today they’re going to bring up world

[00:31:47] science or carbon dating or dinosaurs or yeah well the Bible just mythology well

[00:31:52] you can’t trust that in a scientific age we’ve got to equip people with answers

[00:31:57] to know how to be able to defend the Christian faith and point those people to the fact the Bible’s history is true

[00:32:04] and then to the fact that gospel based in that history is true and so that that’s an emphasis that we need in our

[00:32:11] churches it’s an emphasis we need in our own personal lives in regard to bringing up our children and in regard to

[00:32:18] evangelism amen I I couldn’t agree more I think that’s so timely that message is

[00:32:25] so important that’s what we have to do so you know the debate that you did with

[00:32:30] Bill Nye was five years ago has there ever been a talk of a follow-up a debate

[00:32:36] well not a follow-up formal debate but I did do a second debate with Bill Nye and

[00:32:44] we call it the second debate and the day after the Ark opened the Ark opened on

[00:32:50] the 7th of June 2016 and the day after the ark opened Bill Nye came and visited

[00:32:57] and he had his video crew with him when he wander video we are can so I agree to

[00:33:02] that provide a week of video or two which we did and we actually have that on DVD untitled they can go on the

[00:33:08] website and get that on the Answers in Genesis YouTube channel and I took the

[00:33:14] Illinois through the three decks of the Ark and there are a lot of young people there on they and they follow this around as well

[00:33:20] and I was able to challenge Bill Nye all the way through the arc and push him to

[00:33:25] the consequences of his secular worldview you know what happens when you die bill well he says when you die

[00:33:31] you’re done and then talk about well then right his purpose wasn’t meaningless so what’s the point of view debating me or talking to me and and and

[00:33:38] you know asking him questions about that and pushing him to the consequences of

[00:33:45] his atheism and I tell you it was it was a really incredible time and and now

[00:33:51] with those two debates the one that I did five years ago formerly here at the Creation Museum and then the informal

[00:33:57] debate for two hours through the arc I don’t think Bill Nye will come back

[00:34:02] and and debate again and it’s sad to see where he’s headed and involved in

[00:34:08] programs on Netflix that are sexually perverse and so on yeah pretty sad to see that but I’ll tell you what it opens

[00:34:14] up a lot of people’s eyes and we continue what actually siculus don’t

[00:34:20] want a debate Christians today and certainly not creationists in fact Bill

[00:34:25] Nye got a lot of criticism from his peers from the secular world for debating me they were angry because they

[00:34:32] said it allows those creationists to get their message out to the public and they

[00:34:37] didn’t want that they they didn’t even want people to hear what we’ve got to say so they want to close down debate

[00:34:44] that’s a statement of that’s a statement of hey I I’m afraid you may be right

[00:34:49] really if you’re so afraid of somebody else talking that they can persuade you to the other side well that’s not a good

[00:34:55] sign for your your ability to defend yourself right exactly I mean you think

[00:35:00] about it the secularists are so adamant kids in public school not hear anything

[00:35:05] at all about creation look if evolution was so correct and if it was obvious in

[00:35:11] fact why would you be worried about showing them what the creationists are saying in fact you would relish it to

[00:35:17] see how stupid they are but they want to protect students from even hearing what

[00:35:24] creationists say because they know once they hear this information and that’s what happens when people come to the ark

[00:35:29] and the Creation Museum I’ve heard it said many men people said I’d never heard this before no one ever told me this before and it

[00:35:37] challenges their thinking and they realized evolution is just a belief it’s a religion and they realized real

[00:35:42] science actually confirms the Bible it’s a revelation for many people and it makes them sit up and listen and listen

[00:35:49] to God’s Word in the gospel Amen well ken I just want to thank you so much for being on the program today and I just

[00:35:55] thank you for your testimony and your faithfulness to do what God has called you to do despite the obstacles that have been along the way so thank you for

[00:36:02] being here hey thanks a lot Kevin absolutely okay well if you didn’t get to hear that whole interview feel free

[00:36:09] to check it out on youtube on our podcast wherever it might be and I really encourage you go check out

[00:36:15] Answers in Genesis org there are so many answers there to the questions you have you might think you have some obscure

[00:36:20] question and then you type it into the search bar and the answer pops up so tons of resources there visit the Ark

[00:36:26] exhibit visit the museum you can’t go wrong and ultimately it’s a great thing to share with your friends it’s a great

[00:36:32] resource to help steer other peoples towards the truth of God’s Word and stay with us we’re going to have another

[00:36:38] program up real soon here so god bless you and I hope you’re having a great day we’ll talk we’ll see you soon

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