Why Marriage Matters

[00:00:01] hey thanks for being here this evening um i’m kevin conover we’re broadcasting down here in southern california if

[00:00:07] you’re listening uh locally we are on k praise 12 10 a.m and we’re talking about

[00:00:12] uh marriage uh you may or may not know this is pretty crazy i just learned this

[00:00:18] malaysia actually banned the celebration of valentine’s day in 2005

[00:00:23] stating it has elements of christianity pakistan’s high court in islamabad also

[00:00:29] banned any celebrations media coverage or mention of valentine’s day in 2017.

[00:00:34] so that’s pretty pretty funny um to me i never heard before that valentine’s day

[00:00:40] had been banned and jason is on the air with me uh this evening he’s um my

[00:00:45] producer or helps me put all this together so uh jason say hi to everybody man hey kevin thank you so much for

[00:00:51] allowing me to join the show tonight look forward to speaking about why matter marriage matters yeah yeah and uh

[00:00:58] you know i figured it’s great because you have hair and and you add a different you know dynamic to the show so

[00:01:03] well thanks for letting me come be from behind the curtain into the yeah stage here yeah so you know

[00:01:09] depending on how it goes um you know we might see more of jason or maybe not you know if it doesn’t go that well

[00:01:16] anyway um what i what i really wanted to talk about was uh you know some brief history of valentine’s day i got this

[00:01:24] from the family research council’s website this is pretty crazy most people don’t know this um february 14th actually marks the

[00:01:30] anniversary of saint valentine of rome’s martyrdom that is his death right in 8269

[00:01:37] he was executed by the emperor for his christian faith and for marrying couples when marriage was temporarily illegal

[00:01:45] can you believe that can you can you imagine if you lived in a time when marriage was illegal um

[00:01:51] that that’s intense i mean would you still get married if you were risking

[00:01:56] getting uh put in prison right um yeah braveheart except

[00:02:02] hey that that was good that’s like a play on words braveheart right hey did you just come up with that on your own

[00:02:08] yeah that was good uh so

[00:02:13] so listen to this st valentine’s life and death uh demonstrate the high price that can sometimes accompany standing up for

[00:02:19] christian values saint valentine lived in rome during the reign of claudius ii he was also known

[00:02:25] as claudius the cruel the roman government was notorious for persecuting christians ever since the church’s

[00:02:30] founding because christian ethics dissented from the practices of polygamy

[00:02:36] homosexuality pedophilia and prostitution that were prevalent in the empire boy that is so interesting to me

[00:02:43] that the contrast between christian ethics and what people were practicing at the

[00:02:50] time i mean we’re seeing a lot of this kind of stuff become more and more popular in our culture today

[00:02:56] and so it’s it’s crazy how uh history often repeats itself it says

[00:03:01] here uh rome was at war while claudius ii was in power and he believed unmarried men

[00:03:07] made the best soldiers because they did not have families at home to worry about and could not use their marriage as an

[00:03:12] excuse to get out of military service his desire to strengthen his army combined with his prejudice towards

[00:03:18] christians led to his decision to make marriage illegal in rome for a time

[00:03:23] but valentine continued to marry people in secret and this uh ended up with his

[00:03:30] martyrdom he ended up being arrested and actually killed for marrying people in secret

[00:03:35] pretty outrageous wow when you think of reasons why you would die for christ

[00:03:40] it’s not usually because you’re thinking like well i’m going to go conduct some weddings here and maybe i’ll get put in jail for that right

[00:03:47] yeah that’s um that’s unbelievable it is it’s pretty wild and yet um it

[00:03:53] makes a lot of sense um you know in light of what we’re seeing this is something else that’s really interesting

[00:03:59] if you if you kept up with what happened over the past year uh this came out in the news not too

[00:04:04] long ago where blm um on the website on their website uh

[00:04:11] they were actually uh they claimed to be trained marxists this was the co-founder patrice coolers

[00:04:18] described herself and her fellow co-founder alicia garza as trained marxist and in on their website it

[00:04:26] actually said um that they wanted to dismantle the nuclear family structure

[00:04:32] and um they came under fire for that that’s been removed from their website since

[00:04:37] uh a particular nfl lineman um mark marcellus marcellus wiley

[00:04:44] actually blasted them over that and uh got it all out there and said hey what are you doing family

[00:04:50] is really important to me and uh they ended up taking it down but you know i looked into this because i

[00:04:57] was thinking to myself this what a wild uh why would anybody ever say that but it

[00:05:02] does turn out that uh central tenet of marxism marxism is the dismantling of

[00:05:07] the nuclear family structure [Music]

[00:05:13] and of course we don’t mean nuclear nuclear weapons there you know it actually means nuclear as in

[00:05:20] this is the basically the kernel or the most important thing is what we’re looking at here so

[00:05:27] thanks for explaining that i was wondering what you’re talking about nuclear families yeah yeah i know uh i

[00:05:32] think people people are like well i i can’t support the nuclear family that’s you know a nuclear weapons or whatever

[00:05:39] no no that’s not what it has to do with it it meant something far before we were dealing with nuclear energy or anything

[00:05:46] like that it’s not uh not yeah not not nuclear weapons

[00:05:51] um so if you hear that here hear that us refer to that you know that’s not that’s not a bad thing nuclear family here what

[00:05:58] so when we say nuclear family we’re essentially saying the biological mother and father

[00:06:03] and the biological kids all connected that’s the nuclear family

[00:06:08] but interestingly enough marxism actually teaches the dismantling of

[00:06:14] the nuclear family that’s a weird thing why would anybody want to dismantle the nuclear family i

[00:06:20] mean what even a marxist what what would be the point of that of of taking that down

[00:06:26] yeah you got to go back to the root um you know it’s really an attack on god that’s what i believe and i’m sure

[00:06:32] you’re going to get there yeah yeah you know it’s interesting um check this out this is crazy

[00:06:38] marxists argue that the nuclear family performs ideological functions for

[00:06:43] capitalism the family acts as a unit of consumption and teaches passive acceptance of

[00:06:49] hierarchy it is also the institution through which the wealthy pass down their private

[00:06:54] property to their children thus reproducing class

[00:07:00] inequality you ever heard that before jason i’ve never heard of that but it does sound very wicked

[00:07:06] that is wild is that i mean that just uh is uh i mean marxism you know uh is

[00:07:13] is obviously opposed to capitalism which is interesting because the bible is actually pro-capitalism in

[00:07:20] the sense that a person gets to keep what they earned if you work hard you get to keep it

[00:07:26] nobody gets to take what you’ve earned in the bible that’s considered theft and

[00:07:32] and so obviously the bible is opposed to communism which is the government uh you know ultimately socialism leads

[00:07:38] to communism is the disbursement of material goods

[00:07:44] regardless of who worked for them or earned them and who didn’t and i find that

[00:07:50] uh really interesting that marxism actually for that reason wants the nuclear family to go away because

[00:07:56] they believe it’s teaching hierarchy and in in communism there’s not supposed to be hierarchy now of course there is if

[00:08:02] we look at all the communist governments around the world there’s incredible hierarchy um and there’s there’s tyranny

[00:08:08] uh yet they’re advocating for no hierarchy which is just a mythical ideal that doesn’t exist

[00:08:16] in the real world so right crazy stuff um and you know we’re not gonna get

[00:08:22] sidetracked too far on capitalism and and marxism other than to say that that

[00:08:27] marxism wants to get rid of the nuclear family structure and and for that for that particular reason

[00:08:34] that i said but um so valentine here is promoting

[00:08:40] marriage and what we know now from the social sciences that marriage is one of the most beneficial

[00:08:46] things if not the most beneficial thing you can have in a society um the promotion of the christian ethic of

[00:08:52] marriage one man one woman um in that relationship forever raising their kids

[00:08:58] and uh not forever sorry till death do us part right so

[00:09:04] that’s it’s a funny thing because you’re not married in heaven a lot of people think we’re going to be together

[00:09:09] forever you know but uh you know how does your wife feel about that jason that you guys are you’re

[00:09:14] gonna she’s disappointed and it goes before me she said i can’t marry anybody else so yeah did she tell you that

[00:09:21] yeah yeah yeah i know that’s what my wife is i’m gonna honor what she her wishes so

[00:09:27] you’re not gonna get married in heaven nope no i’m not gonna get married if she passes oh okay okay i got you i got you

[00:09:36] 18 years and it’s it’s been amazing so uh you guys everything’s gone probably

[00:09:41] perfectly for you like your marriage is just there’s just never been any fights or anything right no

[00:09:47] no i’d be lying if i said that was the truth but uh yeah we’re both sinners and we both um

[00:09:52] there’s a lot of challenges in the first few years of our marriage that was very went through a lot of ups and downs

[00:09:59] but um you know as as we remain faithful to god number one

[00:10:05] um he’s helped us through so many different challenges in our life we’ve been together for 18 years i’ll just tell you

[00:10:11] a quick story she went off on a a trip a couple weeks ago we

[00:10:17] barely ever been apart and it was hard for me to kind of let her go off and and be independent for a little bit

[00:10:24] because i had to watch the kids when i was at home but it was it was challenging you

[00:10:29] know being married 18 years and she’s gone and i’m here with the kids and it’s um you know you’re learning

[00:10:35] something new every day and that’s what you know it’s it’s all about marriages you never give up you never quit you

[00:10:41] keep moving on and through any challenge that god um

[00:10:46] that’s presented he’ll help you through it yeah yeah yeah i mean um there is

[00:10:52] marriage is incredibly challenging i think um i’ve been married for 22 years now so

[00:10:57] i beat you on that uh jason um that’s probably why i have less hair too

[00:11:04] mine’s quite either yeah that’s true you’re getting there you still got a lot of color though

[00:11:09] do you dye your hair no that’s well um yeah i mean

[00:11:16] i think marriage is incredibly challenging and uh but all the all the social science and the bible of course

[00:11:22] um actually shows that it’s worth the challenge um right time magazine did a big series on happiness

[00:11:29] and the what older couples described if they had been married

[00:11:35] in a long-term marriage they described the longevity of that marriage as the most surreal and special

[00:11:41] part of their lives that led to the most happiness um and i thought this was really interesting

[00:11:47] time magazine the counselors described marriage as uh

[00:11:52] they called it a commitment device and it was something where you were committing to

[00:11:58] being married and it locked you into something that that um put off immediate gratification

[00:12:05] at times but what led to long-term gratification and i thought that was really interesting because in our lives a lot

[00:12:12] of times we need this we commit to different things we we might commit to a a savings plan we might commit to an

[00:12:17] exercise plan we might and we we put ourselves under this um

[00:12:24] this requirement um and and in the short term whether it’s with a coach or something right or a physical trainer

[00:12:30] and part way through it you’re like i want out i want to get out of this right but but you’ve committed to it and the

[00:12:36] coach holds you to that and in the long run you know it’s good for you and a lot of times there’s things like that in marriage where you think to

[00:12:43] yourself oh man i don’t know if i’m gonna make it and um yet that commitment and especially if you

[00:12:49] have that community around you that church community i think that’s you know part of the reason that christ founded the church was that community helps you

[00:12:55] to keep that commitment and um to follow through and all and ultimately it’s a benefit to you it’s benefit to

[00:13:02] your spouse it’s benefit to your kids and it’s a benefit to your community um

[00:13:07] you know what it does for you so yeah if i didn’t have the faith that having gra god

[00:13:12] it’d be difficult um you know i’d lose a lot of hope i do um

[00:13:18] probably want to i mean sometimes you want to run off as it is but if you can fall back on god’s word and what he says about

[00:13:24] marriage and he hates me he hates not he hates divorce he doesn’t hate marriage he

[00:13:30] hates divorce and that’s one thing you know um i look at is if

[00:13:35] god doesn’t doesn’t say god hates many things but he hates divorce and um

[00:13:40] so that’s that’s one of the the biggest reasons that we

[00:13:46] uh strive not to go to bed angry um we pray together we communicate often

[00:13:51] and we we trust one another and that’s those are things that we do and we’ve learned to to grow into

[00:13:57] those things we they weren’t things that we established overnight but after 18 years it gets better and better

[00:14:03] so yeah and um you know it’s interesting because

[00:14:08] um all the social science confirms what the bible teaches and you know it says that in micah it says

[00:14:15] god hates divorce and then it says um why does he hate divorce because he desires

[00:14:21] godly offspring and uh the impact that um a healthy marriage

[00:14:26] has on kids is is astonishing honestly um when i first started looking into this

[00:14:31] i was blown away by the the facts that have come out based on uh long-term

[00:14:37] marriages let me read some of these to you it’s pretty pretty incredible um it says here

[00:14:42] a five-year study released in 1998 found that continuously married husbands and wives experience better emotional health

[00:14:48] and less depression than people of any other marital status a 1990 review of research found that

[00:14:54] husbands and wives also have better physical health while the unmarried have significantly higher annual death rates

[00:15:00] about 50 percent higher for women and check this out jason how much higher do

[00:15:06] you think the death rate goes up for an unmarried man it’s 50 higher for unmarried women how

[00:15:12] much higher do you think it is for men 60 60. dude it’s 250 percent

[00:15:20] yeah i was like i was like what but it makes sense you know if you think you leave

[00:15:26] guys to themselves put a whole bunch of guys in a room together and what happens right yeah you start fighting and

[00:15:31] i teach i teach high school students right if you put a whole bunch of high school boys in a locker room together

[00:15:37] and there’s no adult supervision oh man i mean you’re you’re talking about disaster just like really quick

[00:15:44] somebody’s gonna get stuffed in a locker you know somebody’s gonna it’s just gonna it’s just gonna get out of control but so god actually designed

[00:15:51] uh marriage to be a benefit to uh men and women but let me read a few more of these because it goes on here

[00:15:59] married people are less likely to be the victims of any type of violent crime than are those who have divorced separated or never married

[00:16:06] families headed by married couples also have much higher incomes and greater financial assets i think that one about

[00:16:12] violent crime is really interesting too um but it makes sense the bible teaches this it says that um

[00:16:20] two are better than one when one falls down uh he has no one to help him up but when when when one falls down and and

[00:16:27] there’s two then they have somebody else to to pull them up and boy that is so true i mean there’s been so many times

[00:16:33] when my wife um encourages me to do the right thing and helps me to see something from a

[00:16:39] perspective i may not have seen before um and just really helps me to um

[00:16:46] think through something that um i may have rushed into and so um i’m sure you can you can um sure

[00:16:53] share that same uh fact so yeah i mean my wife is one of my big she’s my

[00:16:58] biggest cheerleader i mean she’s really there to encourage edify and really get me through things it’s

[00:17:05] tough when she’s away and when i’m you know watching the kids or do doing anything

[00:17:10] she’s she’s just my one of my biggest supporters so it’s it’s definitely true rings true

[00:17:16] to have that support and in your life it’s i think i look pretty young for my age

[00:17:23] and and i’m it’s because of my wife really

[00:17:28] she blessed me he’s actually jason’s actually 83. but

[00:17:34] he does look really young though yeah so okay here’s a huge for those of you who like facts here’s here’s some more

[00:17:39] because it’s not just the couples that are blessed who stay married it’s also their

[00:17:45] kids listen to this this is crazy seventy percent of long-term prison inmates grew up without fathers seven

[00:17:51] out of every ten long-term prison inmates grew up without fathers even as far back as nineteen eighty

[00:17:57] seventy seven a study found that divorce regardless of the economic status of the

[00:18:02] disrupted family was the strongest correlation with robbery rates so there

[00:18:07] was this is this is unreal there was nothing that that uh correlated more

[00:18:12] closely with divorce than robbery rates wow incredible divorce goes up robbery goes

[00:18:19] out i didn’t find that statistic yeah i guess they just asked him when they uh after they robbed a store hey do

[00:18:26] you have a father well i know i don’t think that’s funny

[00:18:31] no i think all they did was they looked at um because you know divorces are filed in a court so you can you can see

[00:18:38] how many divorces are taking place in a particular town or a particular city it’s not hard they keep track of all the

[00:18:44] divorces and so all they have to do is go to the police and go how are the robbery rates because those are all

[00:18:49] tracked too then they go to the courts and say what are the divorce rates and they look at that and

[00:18:56] there it is lo and behold that’s the strongest correlating factor um in the city

[00:19:02] among all possible contributing factors only divorce rates are consistently associated with suicide and with

[00:19:09] homicide rates and that’s really sad but from a practical standpoint you know

[00:19:14] i used to be a youth pastor and i saw the impact of kids who

[00:19:19] didn’t have a father in the home and they’re coming home there’s nobody there

[00:19:24] and uh they’re left to themselves left to fend for themselves um and

[00:19:30] it was just a sad reality that that was the case um very very difficult

[00:19:35] and so this is from time this is what i taught was talking about

[00:19:41] earlier couples who have made it all the way later into life together have found it to be a peak experience a sublime

[00:19:48] experience to be together says carl pillimer a cornell university professor and gerontologist who did an

[00:19:54] intensive survey of 700 elderly people for his 2015 book 30 lessons for loving

[00:20:01] everybody 100 percent said at one point that the long marriage was the best

[00:20:06] thing in their lives right here’s in one of the others uh from the time magazine article on happiness one

[00:20:14] of the strongest effects marriage has is on people’s health the beneficial effects have held up in study after

[00:20:19] study married people are less likely to have strokes less likely to have heart disease and less likely to have

[00:20:25] depression they respond better to stress if they get sick they’re less likely to die of a fistful of diseases including

[00:20:32] cancer and they recover more quickly when they do

[00:20:37] i always tell uh you know one of the things i was reading on this issue before and

[00:20:43] um i uh they said that when you go to counseling one of the most powerful impacts the

[00:20:48] counselor has regardless of the type of counseling he uses

[00:20:54] is just the fact that you get to to share with somebody what’s on your heart you know they say i just need to get

[00:20:59] that off my chest and just being able to have somebody listen and in a lot of ways in marriage you

[00:21:04] have somebody who’s there all the time who you can share with you know unless you just got in a fight and then they

[00:21:10] don’t want to hear hear you talk but but in general you have somebody on a

[00:21:15] regular basis you know week after week month after month year after year who you can share

[00:21:21] your burdens with and even if they’re not physically carrying those burdens emotionally it’s just somebody to talk

[00:21:27] to and and you know for those people who aren’t married god’s provided us with the church and

[00:21:33] that’s what the church has meant for it it talks about this all the time the fellowship we have in in christ

[00:21:38] um but also of course um in genesis chapter two it says it’s not good for

[00:21:43] the man to be alone and god here is speaking very specifically of the fact that um we we need to be able to talk to

[00:21:50] somebody and share what’s going on in our hearts and our our minds sure i think god made us to be social

[00:21:56] creatures you know um i think it just moving out i moved out to kentucky three years ago everything i

[00:22:03] knew was in san diego and building community it’s hard to build community when you’re

[00:22:08] first you know when you’re coming to a new land and um i’m grateful to have my wife

[00:22:13] i mean my best friend i mean really we have each other to to to talk to you and

[00:22:19] and confide in and share with share different things different struggles but yeah without her it would be very

[00:22:27] challenging to move to a new area and i have those connections and and the support that i had you know from

[00:22:34] back home but it’s it’s really a true blessing to be to have her in my life yeah yeah

[00:22:40] absolutely um and you know what’s interesting here too is you know our our culture has been changing and

[00:22:47] they you know there’s there’s been a lot of pushback against

[00:22:52] um what people would call traditional marriage um we we hear it in people who

[00:22:57] are saying you know i’m opposed to the patriarchy or whatever it is and people moving towards

[00:23:02] socialism or saying we need to embrace different types of families

[00:23:10] this is this is a lady cassandra cotton she said

[00:23:16] this she’s an assistant professor at the sanford school of social and family

[00:23:21] dynamic and here she’s he’s she’s um talking against the nuclear family

[00:23:27] she says a broader acceptance and understanding of what family can look like to different people helps us move

[00:23:34] beyond a very restrictive view to a recognition that family is what you make it there isn’t just one family to

[00:23:40] picture when we think about families the unions the unions that we’re forming now whether they’re same sex or opposite

[00:23:46] sex interracial interreligious and so on will have an impact on what our population looks like in the future the

[00:23:52] children raised in these families will go on to have their own families later in life whatever those might look like

[00:23:57] whatever family looks like for you it’s something to celebrate and i think

[00:24:02] i think you know um not everybody’s born into an optimal situation and nobody would ever say oh

[00:24:09] it’s not a family that that’s ridiculous um people need to be loved wherever they’re at and whoever they are and

[00:24:16] in whatever circumstance they’re in we need to do the best we can to love people but there’s no doubt about it that god

[00:24:21] designed things to be a particular way and um we do ourselves a favor when we look at

[00:24:28] the way god has designed things and then do our best to live by those standards because those standards produce the results that are the healthiest the

[00:24:34] happiest and uh the best for everybody involved and and so i think it’s a real

[00:24:40] disservice to to try to equate these these other things as opposed to what

[00:24:47] god designed for people to be um and he only wants the best for people right he’s not trying to discourage

[00:24:53] people he’s not trying to um make people feel less than simply because their situation is not ideal but it doesn’t

[00:24:59] mean that we we stop looking for doing our best to to move in that direction

[00:25:05] i agree i think it sounds like a big uh social science project it’s it’s really

[00:25:10] it’s kind of sad there’s really no foundation there for where they’re even

[00:25:16] um i mean there’s no it’s kind of just like creating whatever

[00:25:22] you want it to be i mean it’s a it’s really there’s no um

[00:25:29] what am i trying to say that there’s just not a lot of standard yeah there’s no standard there’s

[00:25:35] it’s just arbitrary you know i had um i was talking to some students and and we were having

[00:25:41] this discussion about the fact that there’s polygamy in the bible and you know the the question comes up well look

[00:25:46] it look there’s polygamy in the bible what’s the big deal um because people are having these throuples and

[00:25:52] you know whatever other kind of relationships and uh polyamory and all these things and the difficulty here is

[00:25:59] is that um i i was talking about this that that uh you know and and i actually

[00:26:05] heard a kid talking about this this kid was discussing his family um which was from utah and i’m not

[00:26:13] trying to disparage mormons or anything but he came from a fundamental mormon family not not from the main church of

[00:26:18] jesus christ of latter-day saints but his father actually had 11 wives and 33 kids and the kid actually said he didn’t

[00:26:25] like his family and and when when he was asked why he said well i can i can count on one hand the amount

[00:26:32] of times i’ve had a decent conversation with my father and so what polygamy does is it actually

[00:26:38] disconnects the father from the children’s simply

[00:26:43] because of the fact that he can’t possibly um have a significant relationship with

[00:26:49] each of these children he’s producing so many kids i mean king solomon’s the best example of not

[00:26:55] not being connected to your family i mean he had 700 wives and uh i can’t imagine he knew

[00:27:02] all their names he was like you are wife number what 342 it’s just crazy right and so

[00:27:10] god’s design is meant to to produce the best possible outcome for

[00:27:15] everybody involved and anything less than that is is going to

[00:27:20] lead to a less beneficial outcome and so you know it’s sad to me that somebody is

[00:27:27] trying to say that hey whatever you want to make family is whatever it whatever it is it’s just it’s just not true it’s

[00:27:35] going to ultimately end up hurting more people not um not how far does that go i mean

[00:27:42] hey i want to marry my pet i want to marry you know it’s it just continues to

[00:27:47] go off in the direction where you i mean you can’t pull that back in and it’s just

[00:27:53] yeah and a lot of people don’t realize there are consequences there are consequences to um how we treat this issue and people

[00:28:00] think no no just let people do whatever they want to do and you know god gives us all free will the wonderful

[00:28:07] thing is there but we also have the we get the consequences of of moving in the wrong direction and and so we all have

[00:28:13] to pray hey god help me to keep on track help me to keep your perspective in mind help me to continue to follow your

[00:28:20] guidelines and and the way you’ve laid out for me to live i’ll share this this is pretty unreal

[00:28:26] um when the war on poverty began there was only a single welfare program that assisted single parents aid to families

[00:28:32] with dependent children afdc today there are dozens of programs that do this including the women infants and children

[00:28:38] food program wic supplemental security income ssi food stamps public housing

[00:28:44] and section 8 housing and the earned income tax credit these means tested welfare programs provide extensive

[00:28:49] support to single parents effectively encouraging the breakup of low-income marriages a low-income single mother who

[00:28:56] marries unemployed father will see her welfare benefits be substantially reduced

[00:29:01] there are over 80 means-tested welfare programs that benefit low-income individuals it is easier to fall in this

[00:29:07] threshold if a low-income woman remains unmarried or chooses to get out of her marriage so people think

[00:29:13] hey government policy on these issues doesn’t matter well in fact since the 1960s we’ve seen a dramatic increase in

[00:29:21] the breakup of marriages today only 22 percent of kids grow up within in a

[00:29:26] nuclear family meaning biological mother and father biological kids and we’re seeing the results of this

[00:29:32] right we talked about the benefits of all that marriage does and now we’re seeing the consequences borne out from

[00:29:38] that and so government policy can either encourage the success of the nuclear family right

[00:29:45] and uh continue to do that or it can we can pass programs that actually

[00:29:50] fuel the disintegration of the nuclear family and so we really need to get back on track and

[00:29:56] go okay not only not only does the bible teach it but also social science is crystal clear

[00:30:02] um this is the way god meant it for for to be and for people to thrive and and do well

[00:30:08] um so we’re we’re running out of time here um

[00:30:14] but um for those of you listening i i hope you have enjoyed this little discussion

[00:30:19] about valentine’s day jason um did you enjoy the discussion about valentine’s day i love it

[00:30:26] [Laughter] thank you for letting me be a part of the show today yeah yeah and you know

[00:30:31] i’m just glad uh that marriage is still legal here in america and that

[00:30:37] we’re not having to marry people in secret right you conducted a wedding didn’t you yeah

[00:30:43] i’ve got to conduct two weddings so uh-huh i had to do the counseling and then the

[00:30:48] marriage ceremony with my sister and also a friend of mine a good friend of mine so that’s great bless you able to

[00:30:54] do that it was funny i was at the gun shop the other day a little while ago and i’m

[00:31:01] in there my son joined the shooting team for our our school i think we have the our

[00:31:06] school has the only shooting team in san diego county but uh it’s it’s trap shooting with uh

[00:31:11] shotguns and i it was my first time going out and looking at all this stuff and and uh

[00:31:17] i’m in there right and all and the gun shop owner um he’s he’s talking to me and all of a sudden somebody comes in and and obviously they know each other

[00:31:24] like like greeting each other with a big hug and everything and and the guy goes oh it’s so good to see

[00:31:29] you to the other guy and he goes he goes um you’re all ready to do my wedding aren’t you

[00:31:35] and i i was like what and the the guy behind the counter that’s selling the guns goes yeah i’ll see you on saturday

[00:31:41] i i can’t wait to do your wedding and i was like what in the world so as soon as the guy left i said i said

[00:31:47] you you um officiate weddings and he goes yeah yeah i love i love doing it it’s a lot of fun

[00:31:54] and so i was like man they’re letting anybody marry marry people nowadays this is crazy but uh

[00:32:00] it was just funny uh anyway uh for those of you listening i hope you had a great a great time listening to our little

[00:32:07] discussion here and um and i hope it’s a benefit to you to understand a little

[00:32:12] bit more about the value of marriage and how significant it really is it’s it’s hugely significant and also maybe a

[00:32:18] little bit more appreciation for valentine’s saint valentine what he did the sacrifice he made for me it

[00:32:24] definitely makes me appreciate valentine’s day more knowing that whoa this this was actually named after a guy

[00:32:30] who literally thought enough of marriage he that he was willing to ultimately uh

[00:32:35] sacrifice his life for his belief in god and his belief in what god had set up so

[00:32:41] that’s pretty powerful and uh we’ll be back again next week and i hope you guys have a fantastic week

[00:32:46] and are able to enjoy um your families and your uh your friends and your relationships that god has

[00:32:53] blessed you with we’ll see you next time see you jason bye thanks happy valentines okay youtube man bye

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