Homeschooling on the Rise with Christy Faith

[00:00:00] thanks a lot for being here this evening my name is Kevin Conover and we’re broadcasting down here in Southern California on K praise 12 10 a.m we’re

[00:00:08] local down here and we’re also on FM 106.1 in North County and

[00:00:14] um we’re going to be talking about uh homeschooling this evening and uh there’s so much happening right now in

[00:00:20] the education environment in um in America and really around the world I don’t know if you know this or not but

[00:00:27] right now there’s a huge fight in France um they’re actually trying to ban homeschooling and uh they have a really

[00:00:34] interesting background to what’s happening in France there’s they’re they’re requiring people to go to public

[00:00:40] schools because they don’t want Muslims homeschooling their kids they feel like it’s affecting their culture and so uh

[00:00:48] who would have thought that that would be the motivation on the other hand there are other European countries that don’t allow homeschooling you may have

[00:00:54] seen this in the news recently a German family that tried to seek Asylum here in America because Germany would not allow

[00:01:02] them to homeschool their kids is now potentially facing deportation they have

[00:01:07] been 15 years in Tennessee and now all of a sudden they’re being told they have to go back to Germany and uh when they

[00:01:13] when they were seeking Asylum they were the police actually came to their house to force them to put their kids in

[00:01:19] public schools and they were like no we don’t want to do this we’re a Christian family we feel like um we feel like we the public schools

[00:01:26] are teaching things that are completely contrary to what we believe and so uh

[00:01:31] that’s happening right now there’s a this big discussion going on and and uh so there’s all kinds of news about

[00:01:38] homeschooling um right now I’ll just give you some quick facts 3.7 million kids are

[00:01:44] homeschooled in America somewhere around that amount according to the research that was uh recently put out by by the

[00:01:49] national home education Research Institute and uh about somewhere around 5.2 percent of kids in America are

[00:01:57] currently homeschooled and I’m super excited because we have a guest uh this evening who knows all about

[00:02:03] homeschooling and so you’re going to get an opportunity to hear from her perspective her name is Christy faith

[00:02:08] and she has been in education for 20 years um both K kindergarten through college

[00:02:14] as well as Administration and she’s has worked in all levels of Education she

[00:02:20] co-founded a private Educational Center and consulting firm with her husband Scott and she helps train homeschool

[00:02:26] moms because it can be daunting she has a community called the Thrive homeschool community and you can get advice there

[00:02:32] support and also you know connect with other homeschool parents and families to

[00:02:38] get build that Community she also and I want to encourage you to check this out she has a new book comment coming out

[00:02:45] called homeschool Rising shattering myths finding courage and opting out of the school system you can check that out

[00:02:51] at Christy Dash faith.com Christy faith.com the book just came up for

[00:02:57] pre-sale Christy thank you for being here and congratulations on your new book so exciting thank you it is my

[00:03:04] pleasure thank you for inviting me on absolutely you know there’s all kinds of

[00:03:09] um you know concerns people have about homeschooling and I know that’s a lot of what you address your all over Tick Tock

[00:03:15] um uh and again for those of you listening who don’t know Christy Faith there’s a great way to know her you can

[00:03:21] check her out on social media she is a prolific and the posts are fantastic it’s not

[00:03:28] just you know entertainment it’s actually stuff that’s going to get you educated um so tell us a little bit about your

[00:03:34] background because you weren’t always involved in homeschooling what what happened what caused the change

[00:03:40] yeah you know what it’s so funny because the best word for what happened to Scott

[00:03:45] and I is a deconstruction and we often hear about that in Christian circles a deconstruction it’s very trendy right

[00:03:52] now and but that is literally what happened to us just a deconstruction in the

[00:03:58] education system but for Scott and I it cost us a lot because it cost us our

[00:04:03] entire livelihood when we had this great kind of an Awakening as to what on Earth

[00:04:10] is happening and what are we doing are we actually helping children or are we

[00:04:18] participating and are we enabling A system that we don’t believe in anymore or a system that is actually doing what

[00:04:25] it says it’s doing which it says it is educating kids but I argue that in fact

[00:04:30] it is absolutely not doing that and that is one of the one of the main reasons why we left

[00:04:36] so break that down for us I mean how did that take place what what was going through your mind I’m just trying to

[00:04:42] picture you um you know when did was there a light bulb that went on or was this like a

[00:04:48] gradual process what happened so it was gradual but I did have a light bulb

[00:04:54] moment so when we I was I’m a little bit of an older mother so we had a lot of

[00:04:59] years running our Center together it was an educational center and consulting firm in Los Angeles we educated the kids

[00:05:05] of the Rich and Famous we ran a homeschool out of there we did after school remediations General tutoring

[00:05:12] test prep all of those things but it was more than a tutoring center like it

[00:05:17] wasn’t a chain it was ours we were very well known in the community and what happened is schools would come to us and

[00:05:25] ask us to work with certain students particularly private schools would say hey they would call the admissions

[00:05:30] officer would call me up and say hey Christy we really want to take this student they’re a really great family

[00:05:35] but we think this kid is going to need you know two hours of tutoring a week or she’s not at reading level can you get

[00:05:42] her to reading level because you really want her to succeed at our school but we’re not sure if she will without some interventions and so we were really

[00:05:49] different in our community very close-knit word of mouth and so this is

[00:05:55] what we were doing but what we found is and we were highly successful doing it

[00:06:00] we also ran a homeschool out of our Center but the home school was a lot different than why I homeschool we had a

[00:06:07] lot of child actors pre-pro athletes and things like that where they needed to get to school finish school to get to

[00:06:13] auditions or like in the case of our ice skater and a surfer that we had they

[00:06:19] needed to leave for like six weeks on end and so they had to come back kind of pound out schooling so that they could

[00:06:25] go off again these types of schedules that uh you know a school would give you truancy so

[00:06:31] um we were homeschooling but not in a philosophical way where we were using accredited programs to execute our

[00:06:36] homeschool so that we would make sure that the kids if they ever did get matriculated back into traditional

[00:06:42] schools whether public or private that they would be able to seamlessly matriculate back

[00:06:47] but what I started to notice is that these kids were at school all day seven

[00:06:54] hours a day they would come to us often dinner in hand and then come to us and

[00:07:00] then have an hour two hours three hours of either remediation or tutoring or

[00:07:05] homework and then we would send them home at night with even more work to do and there came a point and we ran this a

[00:07:13] lot we ran the center for 17 years there came a point where I when I had my own first child I was late to become a

[00:07:20] mother and I remember distinctly holding my child it was actually around this time of year because I brought him to the

[00:07:26] center to show all of the kids and all of our staff his cute little Halloween costume he was a lobster that year and I

[00:07:32] had made it homemade and all that and so and I kind of looked around and I

[00:07:37] thought to myself is this the life I want for my kid is this necessary

[00:07:43] because in Los Angeles the public schools are really not great you you know even if you live in a place where

[00:07:50] your home cost you a million dollars your local public school is still not going to be that great so we kind of

[00:07:57] were facing this like are we gonna put him in our own Center what are we gonna do and then meanwhile to make a long

[00:08:04] story short our homeschool at our Center was actually growing significantly so I

[00:08:10] wanted to really dial in that piece of the business and so I booked a ticket to a homeschool

[00:08:16] conference I didn’t know anybody in the industry I’m not a homeschooler myself I’m kind of skeptical all homeschoolers

[00:08:22] are religious all homeschoolers are weird the kids are awkward all the things that I talk about in my book

[00:08:28] Shameless plug um that I debunk in my book so and by the way in my book I have an entire

[00:08:34] chapter on socialization that really attacks the heart of the problem unlike anyone has done before so I really want

[00:08:40] to encourage your listeners you’re hung up on that socialization piece my book is a must read because our you know we

[00:08:47] can homeschoolers can say till they’re blue in the face no my kid is socialized or we go co-oper she’s in tons of sports

[00:08:54] but still we’ll get the answer okay yeah that’s great you do all that stuff but what about socialization right like yeah

[00:09:00] like you’re driving us crazy I actually think that I figured out why so uh

[00:09:07] please grab that book if for that chapter alone if that’s one of your Hangouts that was a good that was a good

[00:09:12] tease because I I really really want to know the answer to that question do it later okay so what I did an outfit

[00:09:21] I won’t drone on and on about this but I went to that conference and that was the first time in my life okay mind you I

[00:09:28] have been in education my entire career that I was introduced to other pedagogies teachers in school

[00:09:36] are not taught that there are other pedagogies we’ve heard of Montessori we’ve heard of Waldorf

[00:09:43] most of us never hear of classical Charlotte Mason let alone unschooling oh

[00:09:48] my goodness those are the people that are abusing their kids right yeah um which actually true unschooling is not

[00:09:54] that at all right abusers are bad people and then there’s people that philosophically truly are nurturing

[00:10:00] their children because unschooling is the right fit for them so anyway um I sat and I went to a couple of

[00:10:06] workshops in that conference and there was one particular lady that I saw I went to her workshop and I have a

[00:10:14] master’s degree in history and so I was interested in okay what are these homeschoolers saying about history I had

[00:10:19] literally only taught history with textbooks period like my my entire

[00:10:25] career I was basically trained how to make history boring and how to make kids hate history like this was

[00:10:30] what I oh the only thing I knew she starts opening her mouth and talking

[00:10:35] about living books that if we teach our kids history

[00:10:42] through this thing called living books stories coming alive not only will they

[00:10:50] learn the facts we want them to learn about history but they will remember them forever because they have an

[00:10:56] emotional connection and I thought this is why we study history I already knew

[00:11:02] that from all of my classes in graduate school we study history so that we are

[00:11:07] changed and we don’t repeat the past this is why we study history we won’t

[00:11:12] study history just to memorize the reasons for the follow the Roman Empire to regurgitate them on a test on Friday

[00:11:19] like that doesn’t help anybody but if we are actually changed and ask good

[00:11:24] questions about ourselves and Human Nature that is why we study it and that was

[00:11:29] when like the House of Cards fell so it was like it built up but then I did have this culminating moment where I was like

[00:11:37] what and by the way I have been homeschooling my own children for a lot

[00:11:42] of years now and we have never cracked open a textbook and they know their history beautifully wow in the middle of

[00:11:50] the hiding place right now talk about a great way to learn about World War II oh I love it that’s amazing

[00:11:55] um and when you say you’ve never cracked open a textbook you don’t mean you’ve never cracked open a book you mean a textbook yeah textbook yes let’s clarify

[00:12:04] that yeah yeah so we have tons of I mean we are such a literature Rich family

[00:12:10] which is a signature of a lot of homeschool families Books Galore

[00:12:16] um but in terms of textbooks that are going to kill the love of learning we

[00:12:22] try to avoid them at all costs now let me clarify though um my kids are probably College Bound

[00:12:29] um I have several kids in my house that are gifted and so are we gonna have to do textbooks in high school so that we fulfill College requirements absolutely

[00:12:36] but I’ll hold off on that until we need to gotcha okay I love that um you know I

[00:12:42] I do feel that in a lot of ways a lot of um and I think this is primarily because of public schools um and actually the

[00:12:49] lack of competition that was created through a public school Monopoly I think what happens is Teachers just turned it

[00:12:55] into a job and basically we’re trying to get by with the minimum standards and they ended up disconnecting the whole

[00:13:02] purpose like you were actually just saying here’s why we actually read history they disconnected the purpose of

[00:13:08] the class pragmatically and practically in real life and so the kids can can tell they’re like this and that’s like

[00:13:15] the complaint you hear all the time is why am I taking this class this is something I will never use in my life

[00:13:20] and the truth of the matter is is that in a lot of scenarios it’s actually true simply because the teacher has

[00:13:26] disconnected the class from real life and what it’s all about uh so um that’s

[00:13:32] that’s a a great point my guest today is Christy faith and her website is Christy

[00:13:37] Dash faith.com you can visit her there to get all kinds of inspiration and encouragement as well as check out her

[00:13:43] book it’s up for pre-sale homeschool Rising shattering myths finding courage and opting out out of the school system

[00:13:49] uh so Christy I wanted to ask you something else because I I have a lot of questions for you that I think you know

[00:13:56] are in the minds of those who aren’t homeschooling who are on the outskirts but homeschooling is becoming so

[00:14:01] prevalent now that it’s hard to miss it and it’s it’s a quite a force to be reckoned with honestly

[00:14:08] um and so we went from under a million I believe prior to covet to now over 3 million after covet and more parents are

[00:14:15] are aware of what was what’s going on in the public schools than ever before and so a lot of parents are like you said they’re they’re really fleeing the

[00:14:21] public schools in large um in a larger amount but um so here’s a

[00:14:28] question for you ideally in your mind if you could uh have the most ideal

[00:14:34] situation would you have everyone in the nation turn to homeschooling and abandon

[00:14:39] all other forms of schooling um it’s kind of a a question I’m curious

[00:14:44] about from a macro perspective versus the individual parent do you think ideally homeschooling would

[00:14:52] would suit the maybe not all but the majority of families in America

[00:14:59] resoundingly yes keep in mind public schooling institutionalized schooling is

[00:15:04] only 150 years old this is not how our world did this but we don’t know

[00:15:09] anything else because we were grown up we grew up in it our parents did as well

[00:15:15] now let me clarify that statement though I have no doubt in my mind that the best place for a child to be educated is in a

[00:15:22] loving home with a motivated parent if you’re not in a loving home then no if

[00:15:28] you don’t have a loving parrot no right I even have a statement in my book The Publisher will probably take it out so

[00:15:33] I’ll say it here if you’re a narcissist don’t homeschool right but the majority

[00:15:39] of homeschool parents are not criminals that are trying to homeschool because they want to be criminals and get away

[00:15:46] with it the majority there are studies to back this up particularly from Nary who you quoted earlier Dr Brian Ray

[00:15:53] actually wrote the forward of my book I leaned on a lot of his research he is a pillar in our Community just love that

[00:16:01] gentleman so but my answer is yes and you hear a lot like oh well my kid’s

[00:16:07] extroverted so homeschooling is not a fit it so you have an extroverted kid and you give them more activities like

[00:16:13] people think that socialization and being around crowds of other people for

[00:16:18] seven hours straight five days a week I don’t want to spend every day at Disneyland do you like why are we

[00:16:25] assuming that just because you’re extroverted that that’s going to be a good option for you and don’t even get

[00:16:30] me started on the Mental Health crisis suicide statistics kids they have done

[00:16:36] studies on stressors for children like suicides go so much farther down

[00:16:42] um youth suicide goes down in the summer why stresses not only academic stresses

[00:16:48] but um social stresses in school and I go into a lot of this into my book on

[00:16:55] why this is happening but yeah to answer your question boldly I do think that with a loving home and a motivated

[00:17:02] parent who is available you know not everyone can homeschool and not everyone

[00:17:07] should but I do think it is something that every thoughtful parent in America should consider and not just you know in

[00:17:15] the 90s and in the 80s it was largely the religious population that was pulling their kids out in droves because

[00:17:22] they were scared of the public school indoctrination which is funny because that’s often the accusation of us as

[00:17:28] well you just want a home school to indoctrinate your kids but the truth is

[00:17:33] 25 of homeschool families consider themselves completely non-religious so that’s not even considering like

[00:17:40] Christians like faith-based people who are actually following right like you know there’s a big difference between

[00:17:46] being a Christian and saying you’re a Christian right yeah yeah but more and more families are homeschooling because

[00:17:52] maybe their child has special needs don’t even get me started on that or special I mean we made our living off of

[00:17:59] you know reading IEPs and solving the problems with privately that the schools were not able to solve

[00:18:06] um whether it be you know the number one reason why parents homeschool in America is school environment

[00:18:12] they just you know the the National Education the statistics actually say

[00:18:18] that the reason why parents are homeschooling is environment that’s the quiet part out loud parents are sick and

[00:18:24] tired of the environment and the thing we thought it was unattainable we think like I can’t teach how do you teach

[00:18:30] multiple kids I can’t be there seven hours a day I work too listen mamas I

[00:18:36] work full-time as well you know we’re at a pre post coveted world where a lot of us are now working remotely we can be

[00:18:42] flexible with our hours and you know homeschooling does not take seven hours it takes half of that

[00:18:50] I used to be in the schools so much was hurting cats and when I do posts like

[00:18:56] this on social media they tend they tend to blow up and teachers comment like seriously I’m probably teaching less

[00:19:03] than two hours of the seven hours teachers themselves thousands upon thousands tell me this and I was there

[00:19:09] too so yeah I I mean there’s no doubt about it I’m I’m a teacher for 16 years now and so

[00:19:15] um I think there’s a that’s absolutely the case and so um along those lines uh you know I was

[00:19:22] listening to what you were saying I was actually going to quote that exact thing that 25 of parents actually their main

[00:19:27] reason for homeschooling is concerned about the school environment and I think that’s only become more of an issue because of the Advent of kids constantly

[00:19:35] being on their phones um and so what’s happening is it’s uh I almost feel like a lot of times it’s

[00:19:41] kids raising kids uh whether it’s through the phone or whether it’s at school they have so much so little

[00:19:48] interaction with adults who are much who are the mature ones and it’s almost like a Lord of the Flies scenario where

[00:19:54] you’re you’re kind of like um and people complain about socialization and and you’re thinking well you’re not doing

[00:20:00] any good uh socializing them in this environment it seems to me that people are really recognizing this

[00:20:06] um and and I I wanted to kind of camp on what you said you said I’m a working mom

[00:20:12] um and these sorts of things and I wanted to ask you about that because I’m sure there are parents out there thinking and I’ve heard it many times

[00:20:18] that there’s no way I can do this I have to hold down a job how am I possibly going to hold down a

[00:20:24] job while also homeschooling um and what would you say to a mom who’s

[00:20:30] struggling with that issue and realizes that her kid would be better off at home but it’s like I I can’t I can’t make

[00:20:36] ends meet um considering that right well first off you know depending on your age of your

[00:20:41] kids and the flexibility of your job you could very well not be able to do it right now I also know families who have

[00:20:49] a one year plan or a two-year plan to put themselves in a position to homeschool their kids some families

[00:20:56] including ours we left Los Angeles and moved to Colorado for cost of living

[00:21:01] because at that time we were planning on me homeschooling and me not working and so we actually did move States in order

[00:21:08] to because I didn’t know that I was going to do what I do now you know I could go into that later but my Tick

[00:21:14] Tock stuff was actually very accidental and then I realized oh my goodness I

[00:21:21] think this is a calling and so it’s been really an active obedience since then but I truly

[00:21:28] think that there aren’t many people in our space who have come from the system

[00:21:34] and have had that conversion experience where I can actually speak for like you

[00:21:39] know my kids not learning to read and they’re in kindergarten well they’re probably in a you know a program like a font fontus and panel and they’re shown

[00:21:46] sight words all day of course they’re not reading right like you know like I can talk to those things so and your

[00:21:52] question was working working and homeschooling this is the amazing thing how our landscape has changed and I

[00:21:59] think 10 years ago my answer would have been different but now I our superpower is sourcing so for

[00:22:08] example my kids are in live online classes in homeschool academies with

[00:22:13] other homeschoolers a lot like college classes two days a week um you know where they come in and they

[00:22:19] meet and you know my son is in his fourth year of Latin and he has friends all over the world and they all take the

[00:22:26] class together and it’s such it’s been such an ad in terms of social experience

[00:22:32] to have kids with he has kids in his classes that are special needs he has kids all over the world Romania Canada

[00:22:39] all sorts of places missionary kids I think he has a friend in Africa as well who wakes up really early in the morning

[00:22:46] to attend the Latin class the other great thing about homeschooling now is

[00:22:52] that even if you know you don’t necessarily want to have your kid on a screen all day and always do live online classes though you

[00:22:58] do have that option now not only with these live online academies but also with online programs that are kind of

[00:23:04] self-paced but our resources are amazing you can do self-paced programs you can do scripted

[00:23:11] programs so I have a lot of mamas who are really scared to teach their little kindies reading and they just don’t know

[00:23:18] what to do and they’re so scared and I advise them in one of the several curriculas that I like that are based in

[00:23:24] Horton Gillingham method not sight words not um you know the a lot of research

[00:23:29] has been done in the last 10 years on the science of reading but and there are programs out there that are literally

[00:23:36] scripted like you cannot mess up but what people don’t realize and you

[00:23:42] probably do too because you are a teacher and I was as well half the time we’re reading that lesson 30 minutes

[00:23:48] before our kids walk in the door anyway to remind us because we haven’t done it for a year prior I mean I’d like to say

[00:23:53] that I was more well prepared when I taught history and literature but there were some days like that and so you know

[00:23:59] don’t automatically assume that it’s being done better in the system and we have that inferiority complex because

[00:24:05] Society tells us that we’re not equipped to do it but let me tell you that mindset is only 150 years old because in

[00:24:13] the chat in the you know annals of time moms were perfectly equipped to educate

[00:24:19] their children in colonial America we were the most literate Society on the face of the Earth and there was not

[00:24:25] institutionalized schools that’s amazing that’s encouraging um you know so I think that’s that’ll

[00:24:33] help a lot of parents out because they’re thinking to themselves you know if I pull my my child out of school let’s say I try this out and I don’t do

[00:24:39] a good I’m gonna put them behind oh no what’s going to happen you know

[00:24:45] um yeah if if somebody wanted to get their feet wet what is the best way to try this out without with the least

[00:24:51] amount of risk um possible what what would you say to that so it really depends on why you’re choosing to

[00:24:58] homeschool and actually you’re getting at why I started my Thrive homeschool Community because there are lots of moms

[00:25:05] in my community not all of them because we have a rich community of very veteran homeschool moms as well and we nurture

[00:25:12] and feed them because they struggle with burnout right yeah right the new moms who are really struggling with

[00:25:17] insecurity um I really like to coach them and equip

[00:25:23] them I have workshops every month it’s kind of d-schooling and I’m sure your audience has heard this word

[00:25:29] de-schooling I have an entire chapter in my book on what that is and what it basically is is changing your mindset

[00:25:36] asking yourself what is an education and once you answer that for yourself then

[00:25:43] you ask yourself well are the schools giving this to me and my family and my child because then you realize wow with

[00:25:51] resources I can probably do this a lot better um and so and not just academically but

[00:25:58] socially as well but remember how I was talking about how I went to the conference and I learned about different

[00:26:04] pedagogies one of the first things I do is I ask mamas I go live a lot on the

[00:26:10] platforms and I say if you’re on my live tonight or say if you’re on Kevin’s show tonight

[00:26:16] go right after the show go and take my five minute free it’s totally free

[00:26:22] homeschool style finder because there are actually nine different pedagogies and in order for me to advise a mom on

[00:26:28] what curriculum to buy or where to start I kind of need to know why she’s homeschooling and that’s a free quiz

[00:26:35] that only takes five minutes and it’ll say like you lean towards a Charlotte Mason style or a Montessori style and

[00:26:42] then we can start the conversation from there but I really like what you said earlier a lot of people think the

[00:26:48] decision to homeschool is a forever decision no it doesn’t need to be you can especially you know there are a lot

[00:26:54] of families where one spouse is maybe more on board than the other and there’s a lot of valid concerns and it’s so

[00:27:00] important to be on the same page especially with educating your children I often say try it for a year no one’s

[00:27:07] going to be too behind you’ll be able to matriculate your kid back but yeah that the old College to try for a year and

[00:27:14] then evaluate and learn as much as you can you can always put your kids back in school that’s great that’s great great advice

[00:27:21] uh so my guest today is Christy Dash faith.com I’m sorry that’s our website her name’s Christy faith

[00:27:27] and um she’s got a fantastic book coming out you can check it out for pre-sale uh

[00:27:32] up on Amazon or her website and uh Christy so I had another question here

[00:27:38] and that is um you know uh everybody’s you know trying to figure this out and going okay you

[00:27:45] know Public School charter school private school home school um give us some stats on or or some

[00:27:53] facts about the results of homeschooling because a lot of people are thinking and you know I’ve heard it so so often that

[00:28:00] I A lot of times I think people already know these things but then I’m out and about and I’m talking to people and I’m just astonished by how few people know

[00:28:07] the results of homeschooling and how effective it actually is

[00:28:12] um can you share with our listeners um the results of homeschooling yes absolutely so if we’re talking we can

[00:28:19] talk in different terms we can talk academically we can talk socially but first let’s let’s talk academically a

[00:28:25] bit number one what’s really important to know is that homeschoolers tend to be a lot more resilient and colleges are

[00:28:33] recruiting homeschoolers like they never have before part of the reason is colleges are businesses and they want to

[00:28:39] recruit students who are going to complete all four years homeschoolers by a mile complete College

[00:28:47] they’re just kind of more resilient less likely to drop out better prepared for

[00:28:53] the academics of the college environment colleges there’s a reason for that what what is the reason that home schoolers

[00:28:59] are more resilient because that’s a that’s actually Beyond College that’s a character trait that’s incredibly

[00:29:04] valuable um overall in life in fact one of the stats I was reading was actually saying that resilience is like a premier

[00:29:12] character trait in being able to have a fulfilling and successful life yes absolutely I think resilience is so

[00:29:20] important and I think a misconception our society has is that by throwing your kids in a social environment basically

[00:29:27] throwing them to the Wolves you hear this a lot well if you don’t put them in public school how are they going to toughen up well excuse me we now know

[00:29:35] that that toughening up that bullying that toxic social environment the

[00:29:41] comparison the angling for grades and all of that we now know that those are

[00:29:46] lots of repeated traumas with a lowercase T um Kim Jong pain talks about this in his

[00:29:52] book Simplicity parenting It’s a Wonderful book if your audience has not picked that book up I highly recommend

[00:29:58] it um and talks about how he did research on kids who were in actually war-torn

[00:30:05] countries and then he came to America and was studying children here and he saw the

[00:30:11] same PTSD traits in Children Here then he saw in kids who were literally being

[00:30:17] raised in war-torn countries like where family members and parents were killed in violent ways and he was thinking why

[00:30:24] is this the case these kids have everything they’re so privileged and so he unpacks in his book very well

[00:30:31] researched backed he’d be a great guest on here actually um uh as to why that is and he talks about

[00:30:39] repeated traumas with like lowercase lowercase T not uppercase t and how what

[00:30:46] happens when we have a bunch of those lowercase traumas or live in I don’t know about you in junior high but pretty

[00:30:54] much I lived in fight or flight did you I did totally

[00:30:59] no human being can learn in fight or flight it’s just not possible so I like to talk about one of

[00:31:06] the reasons why homeschooling is so successful is that we have more of a

[00:31:11] greenhouse approach some people say I was actually asked at a party once so Chris how long ago to your kids you’ll

[00:31:18] put them in school for high school right and I was like but we talk about greenhousing our kids and that is

[00:31:25] protecting them enough like think of a little baby tree a little baby tree that’s growing up cannot withstand the

[00:31:32] storms of life but there does come a point where they live in the greenhouse they are nurtured they are fed they are

[00:31:38] take care of they’re exposed to enough stressors so they grow up in a healthy way so that later they can be

[00:31:44] transferred it’s not that we’re trying to shelter our kids it’s that we’re trying to nurture them so that they are

[00:31:50] happy full adults who have emotional well-being and know how to have really

[00:31:55] great Relationships by the time they leave our homes yeah so yeah um there’s that piece you know I I talk

[00:32:02] a lot when I’m d-schooling parents in my membership all the time about

[00:32:08] education is not about the and Plutarch said this it’s not or it’s attributed to

[00:32:13] so many of the Ancients it’s not about filling a bucket it’s about igniting a fire and we talk about is education the

[00:32:21] regurgitation of facts or is the education the cultivation of a human being because let me tell you I have a

[00:32:29] master’s degree in history and my kid the other day asked me a history question and I hate being told this

[00:32:34] they’re like but Mom and I looked at her and I said and you

[00:32:40] know what I got from that degree I got really amazing writing skills research skill and I listed skills I didn’t list

[00:32:48] the knowledge that I attained and regurgitated I listed skills soft

[00:32:54] skilled and hard skills and that it I think is why homeschooling is so

[00:33:00] successful and why our kids are being launched and becoming extremely

[00:33:05] successful as adults is because we know we know that it’s not really about

[00:33:10] passing that next that spelling test on Friday right so that they get the grades so that whatever it’s about do they know

[00:33:18] how to study can they write what are the skills we need this morning we were

[00:33:24] reading Little House on the Prairie and I usually I’m sorry Farmer Boy same series and there was a there was a

[00:33:31] situation where there was a family crisis and I closed the book I normally read more I closed it and we had an

[00:33:38] entire conversation about mindset I can guarantee I mean some Public School teachers will probably do that but even

[00:33:45] myself I taught literature I was like okay Belle’s about your ring gotta go right and so but I was able to stop and

[00:33:53] talk about mindset and thankfulness and they could have looked at this situation as a complete devastating awful thing

[00:34:00] that happened to them but they chose to be thankful and those are the skills that I want to cultivate in my kids and

[00:34:07] what a lot of the homeschooling Community does yeah and I that’s fantastic because

[00:34:12] um like you were saying I I like that whole idea about it’s not it’s not filling the the bucket it’s actually lighting a fire because

[00:34:19] um really that’s what they’re gonna need for for life and I I kind of want to throw this out there for our listeners that um something we we often have to

[00:34:26] evaluate in life is um I I’m gonna put in the work now because it’s gonna relieve stress in the

[00:34:35] future meaning if I can prepare my kids to be who they need if I make the sacrifices now so that they can be who

[00:34:40] they need of us um that I might face if they’re not

[00:34:46] prepared for life if they’re not prepared to be able to have that fire and those those habits that character

[00:34:51] all those things that come from the sacrifices that you make now and and sometimes it does seem overwhelming I

[00:34:57] think for a lot of parents it feels overwhelming um that you know what they’re going to

[00:35:02] have to do because it is more work um it is more determination and dedication and like you said it takes a

[00:35:09] motivated parent and so some people they don’t want to do that and

[00:35:14] um I don’t know how you deal with that in in culture how do you how do you deal with a situation where you do have

[00:35:20] because I see this a large percent of families that really are not in the position

[00:35:25] whether that’s emotionally personally or whether that’s financially or relationally

[00:35:31] um they’re not actually in a position to be able to homeschool and yet that’s the best thing for the Next Generation for

[00:35:37] their kids um what are your thoughts on that on the fact that we do have a culture that’s in

[00:35:43] a bit of Crisis meaning we do have a lot of family breakdown we do have a lot of these things is the goal here rescue as

[00:35:51] many families as you can and the rest well you know they’re going to do what what

[00:35:57] they’re going to do they’re going to go to the public schools and whatever or is there is there a

[00:36:03] you know is there a is there hope beyond that um for those those families that aren’t there what what do you say in

[00:36:09] that situation not every everyone

[00:36:18] and one of the other even Pursuit my first video that went viral was really accidental but then I

[00:36:25] started to see how hungry moms were and they had no idea that this was a

[00:36:31] possibility for them no idea and that’s really who I want to speak to is that if

[00:36:38] your heart is tugging at you that there is something better if your kids light is growing dim in the schools maybe they

[00:36:47] have special needs and are not getting helped maybe they are being bullied maybe they’re gifted and they’re

[00:36:52] completely being stifled and left behind um and you know all sorts of reasons why

[00:36:59] this could be something that you maybe never even thought could be an option

[00:37:05] for you and that’s why I’m here my message is to those parents where their

[00:37:12] heart is something’s not right they’re not quite sure this is what they want and you know and the rest of the moms

[00:37:18] those are my trolls and that’s okay you know

[00:37:24] not not and I’m not saying that um I’m not saying that there aren’t people who I actually have friends who vehemently

[00:37:32] believe in their kid being Salt and Light in the public schools I have a

[00:37:38] very uh strong argument against that but um I I do not believe that is the

[00:37:45] interpretation of scripture but um regardless of that there are some people that just aren’t interested at

[00:37:50] all and you know what here’s the thing goodness we live in a free country with

[00:37:57] parents rights and privacy rights where we still have the right to make the educational decisions for our kids not

[00:38:04] everyone is born with the same privilege or the same amount of money or the same amount of resources or lives in a place where you know it’s actually possible or

[00:38:12] where they can have Community um things are changing but still the world is not perfect it never will be it

[00:38:18] was you know it’s never going to be so you know yeah there’s gonna be people I

[00:38:25] mean my viewpoint is reach as many people as possible who need to hear my message and the ones that need to hear

[00:38:30] it will and then there’s a lot of people who it just falls on deaf ears and that’s okay too because they also have

[00:38:36] the right to educate their children how they want to and it’s none of my business

[00:38:41] yeah that’s cool that’s great and that is the wonderful thing about our country is that we have that freedom unlike uh

[00:38:48] these these people fighting for homeschooling over in France and and what’s happening uh with this this poor

[00:38:54] couple and family uh that’s potentially risking deep deportation to Germany it’s crazy but we have the uh homeschool

[00:39:01] legal defense Association here so uh thank God for them and uh many of the other uh attorneys who are standing up

[00:39:07] for uh homeschooling and and so forth I had a friend who had to call them yesterday

[00:39:13] yeah yeah so the incredibly valuable resource oh and by the way again for those of you listening if you have never

[00:39:18] been to a Homeschool Convention even if you don’t homeschool you have no intention of homeschooling I promise you

[00:39:24] go to your local Homeschool Convention it is going to blow your mind I promise you you will be inspired even if you

[00:39:31] didn’t homeschool you will probably incorporate things into your life simply because you went to The Homeschool Convention are you doing the circuit

[00:39:38] this year oh yeah oh yeah I’m at 13 homeschool conventions so I’m sure I’ll

[00:39:43] see you I’m sure I’ll see you there no I’m not going I’m not doing no you’re not no no

[00:39:49] yeah it’s a lot it’s a lot for sure but yeah with the book launch it’s just I have to do so many podcasts I just you

[00:39:55] know I’m homeschooling schooling my kids yeah right I’m not going to leave them you know

[00:40:01] I just I have to make the decisions and what is what is but that was really fun

[00:40:06] meeting you yeah yeah that was so cool that was uh Gene Burke we’ll throw her name out there yeah shout out to Gene

[00:40:12] Burke she is fantastic friends with everyone she’s so dear to me I I met her and I

[00:40:19] was like this one is a keeper she’s going to be a forever friend yeah she’s a sweetheart

[00:40:24] um so I had one more question we don’t have too much time left but again for those of you listening uh if you want to

[00:40:29] learn more about Christy Faith Christy Dash faith.com she’s got her book up for pre-sale I can’t recommend her resources

[00:40:36] uh enough uh if you want help homeschooling which it is so helpful to

[00:40:41] have a community and to have people that that have gone ahead of you and can can counsel you but yes don’t reinvent the

[00:40:49] wheel you know and you know I was doing consultations for years and I just really wanted to find an affordable way

[00:40:56] to help and in my community we have office hours every month we have amazing workshops you can DM me and my mentors I

[00:41:03] have a hired parenting coach in there as well so you do not and it’s not just my

[00:41:08] community there’s all sorts of places where you can go and find your people so please never homeschool in isolation and

[00:41:15] I’m not only just talking about your kids my heart is for moms I feed Mama

[00:41:21] because she’s literally feeding her kids all day every day who’s gonna feed her

[00:41:27] and that’s really what that’s where I shine is and that’s where my heart is is amen

[00:41:33] what’s your question sorry I interrupted you no no problem what a valuable uh resource so so so much more offered now

[00:41:41] than used to be offered yeah um so this is my question um what can go wrong with homeschooling

[00:41:46] meaning oh yes um what are the hurdles that moms need to be prepared for that maybe

[00:41:53] um are things that you can give them a heads up so that they’re not caught by a surprise and they can have their

[00:41:58] expectations um accurate uh when they yes when they begin to take these these steps yes so I

[00:42:05] because of my educational background and reading thousands of IEPs and working with kids who have special needs I kind

[00:42:13] of go against the grain in my own Community regarding this one piece there are a lot of people who give really bad

[00:42:19] advice to homeschooling moms and say oh your kid will read when they read don’t worry about it they’ll read when they

[00:42:25] read and I could not disagree with that more I think early literacy skills or

[00:42:31] there’s nothing more important in life than literacy like nothing and there’s this Matthew effect and what that is is

[00:42:38] they have done studies that if a kid is not reading at grade level by fourth grade statistically they grow farther

[00:42:45] and farther behind where by fourth grade and this is the threshold they’ve done Studies by fourth grade if they are on

[00:42:50] grade level then they will just exponentially shoot out and become Avid

[00:42:56] readers there’s that threshold for them and so I am a huge believer in making

[00:43:03] sure that all home school families are equipped and adequately prepared and

[00:43:08] know how to find red flags particularly with literature see because truthfully if you can read you can learn anything

[00:43:16] right like that’s kind of yeah so that is a skill to not ignore I don’t like

[00:43:21] that advice you know there are some people in the community that you know some of these radical unschoolers and I

[00:43:28] there are some great things about the unschooling movement I love Peter Gray’s Book all of that I hope to meet him one

[00:43:34] day but I don’t want any 16 year olds not knowing how to read and then wishing

[00:43:41] that she could go to college because then doors start to close

[00:43:48] they already have so that’s a big thing is just um for me literacy and and red flags for

[00:43:55] that I mean other than that really if you’re a mindful loving mom and you’re

[00:44:00] going to have some kids that have more of a social need than other kids and you’ll be in co-ops and you’ll do play

[00:44:05] dates and you’ll do all sorts of fun activities and museums it truly is a

[00:44:11] rich life and I often say that homeschool is a beautiful way to reclaim

[00:44:17] childhood it truly is well we don’t have to be a slave to the system we don’t have to wait for our vacations for only

[00:44:23] two weeks you know and that’s when we actually get to spend time with our families

[00:44:29] like this could be your life family togetherness bondedness communal

[00:44:35] memories rituals this can all be this can all be for you if you you know if

[00:44:41] your heart is tugging at you maybe maybe this thing is for you oh I love it that’s so great yeah and it’s so um I I

[00:44:49] just find it so incredibly appealing and um and just a blessing so again for

[00:44:55] those of you listening Christy Dash faith.com is her website and uh I I can’t overstate

[00:45:01] um please just look into it you know if you’re a skeptic or if you’re concerned or if like she’s saying if you feel a

[00:45:08] tug on your heart um take the time to look into it I think you’re going to be incredibly blessed this is only homeschooling is only going

[00:45:14] to grow there are going to become more and more resources and I think what you’re going to find is that your

[00:45:21] children are more equipped in so many ways than a lot of kids that are going to Public Schools or whatever

[00:45:27] Alternatives there are um the kids getting accepted to college or scoring

[00:45:32] higher on their SATs or being equipped to be able to get good jobs and to be able to speak in public and manage

[00:45:39] people um that is what homeschooling produces um they produce All-Stars honestly and

[00:45:45] if you want more evidence of that uh go back in a few of my podcasts back um I

[00:45:50] had on the uh on the show I had two a brother and sister who are debate Champions and uh

[00:45:58] they they can connect it all back to homeschooling so anyway Christy uh thank

[00:46:03] you so much for being with us this evening it’s a huge blessing and I know your book is gonna is gonna fly off the

[00:46:08] shelves so um thank you for your influence and all you’re doing you are really ministering

[00:46:13] to a lot of people so thank you thank you so much for having me on it was a pleasure absolutely okay and we have

[00:46:20] some great shows coming up too my resources are all for homeschooling also you can go to educateforlife.org I’ve

[00:46:26] got all kinds of resources for apologetics helping kids to be confident in their faith in the Bible and in and

[00:46:32] in the Lord Jesus so uh please check that out if you get a chance to I think you’ll find that’s a big blessing also

[00:46:38] and we will be back next time with some more fantastic guests and uh thank you for joining us this evening take care

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