How School Unions Bully Teachers – Rebecca Friedricks

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How School Unions Bully Teachers — with Rebecca Friedrichs

Christian teachers across America are feeling the squeeze—pressured to fund and follow systems that often oppose biblical values and silence Christian voices. In this episode of The Educate for Life Podcast, host Kevin Conover talks with former public school teacher and author Rebecca Friedrichs about how powerful teachers unions influence classrooms, shape school policy, and undermine Christian education, biblical worldview, and godly parenting. If you care about your kids’ hearts, minds, and future, this conversation will help you see what’s really happening behind the scenes in our public schools.

A Teacher Who Stood Up to Goliath

Rebecca Friedrichs spent 28 years teaching in public schools, loving her students and trying to live out her faith in a system that increasingly pushed God out of the classroom. Eventually, she became the lead plaintiff in Friedrichs v. California Teachers Association, a federal lawsuit that went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court and helped pave the way for the later Janus decision—giving public employees the freedom to stop funding unions whose values they don’t share.

In this episode, Rebecca shares how school unions evolved from basic teacher advocacy into massive political machines. She and Kevin unpack how union dues are used to promote radical sex education, gender ideology, and policies that erode parental authority—often without teachers or parents realizing what they’re funding. For Christians committed to Christian apologetics, Christian parenting, and passing on a strong biblical worldview, this raises sobering questions about where our kids are being discipled: by the church and home… or by union-driven curriculum and policy.

Rebecca also tells powerful stories from her book Standing Up to Goliath—accounts of teachers bullied, silenced, or isolated simply for wanting to protect children, support school choice, or live consistently with their faith. Through it all, she points to Christ as the true source of courage and reminds us that ordinary believers, when they stand together, can make an extraordinary difference.

Key Takeaways

  • How state and national teachers unions use billions in dues to push political and moral agendas that conflict with Christian values.
  • Why many Christian teachers feel trapped—afraid to leave the union or speak up, even when their conscience is troubled.
  • How Friedrichs v. CTA and the later Janus decision opened the door for teachers and other public workers to opt out of union funding.
  • Practical ways parents, pastors, and educators can work together to protect children in public schools and strengthen biblical worldview training at home.
  • Why reclaiming education for Christ is central to addressing issues like gender confusion, moral relativism, and the breakdown of the family.

Teachers in America are under attack by the very organization that was set up to protect them. There are stories nation wide of teachers who have been harassed and intimidated by the Teachers Unions. But now that the Janus Case has passed, those teachers now have the…

Teachers in America are under attack by the very organization that was set up to protect them. There are stories nation wide of teachers who have been harassed and intimidated by the Teachers Unions. But now that the Janus Case has passed, those teachers now have the freedom to leave the union but still many do not.

Here on Educate For Life today Kevin has as his guest Rebecca Friedricks to help break it all down and explain what is actually going on. Rebecca Friedrichs has been an elementary school educator in Southern California for 28 years.  Since the first day of her career in 1988, she’s been concerned about the policies and politics of the teachers’ union she’s forced to financially support.

Although she “opted out” of the political dues for the first ten years of her career, she later joined as a full member in order to gain a voice because “agency fee payers” lose all rights of membership, including the right to voice their opinions and vote within collective bargaining.

She served on her local union board for three years with hopes that union representatives would listen to common sense and reason in order to bring about positive change in her district and in union expenditures of members’ dues.  She discovered that many union representatives agreed with her concerns, but to her disappointment, she was unable to make any positive impact because even the union representatives were afraid to speak up to union bosses.  Rebecca knows from personal experience that even union representatives have no real voice in union policies, and are bullied and silenced if they dare to question the unions’ narrow views.

To learn more go to http://ForKidsandCountry.org

This episode first aired on Mar 9, 2019

How We Can Help You

At Educate for Life, we’re passionate about equipping families, churches, and teachers to build a confident, Bible-centered faith in the next generation. If this episode opened your eyes to what’s happening in education, we’d love to help you take the next step.

You can explore our Biblical Worldview Curriculum to ground your kids in Scripture, dig into our creation science curriculum and Christian apologetics courses to answer tough questions about faith and science, or browse the Educate for Life Podcast archive for more conversations on Christian education, culture, and discipleship. Whether your children are in public school, private school, or a homeschool curriculum, our goal is to help you think biblically and live courageously in every area of life.

Here’s a short excerpt from the episode:

Kevin Conover: “If 90% of our kids are going to public schools where essentially God has been outlawed… what you’re going to end up with is a society that becomes more and more secularized.”

Rebecca Friedrichs: “Good and loving teachers are trying very hard to teach our kids, but we are being undermined by an organization that takes our money and uses it to undermine our very values.”

Rebecca Friedrichs: “Teachers have been deceived into believing their pay, their pension, and even their job security are dependent on the union. They don’t realize they’re actually funding the very agenda that’s harming their students.”

Kevin Conover: “Education without values only seems to make man a more clever devil. That’s what we’re watching play out when we erase a biblical worldview from the classroom.”

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[00:00:00] and now here’s your host Kevin Conover bring your time bring your shame welcome

[00:00:07] to educate for life I’m your host Kevin Conover my web sites educate for life dot o-r-g org and we’ve got a great

[00:00:13] program today I have a very special guest she’s in town to actually speak at a Republican event that’s happening this

[00:00:20] evening and her name is Rebecca Friedreich’s and she is the author of standing up to Goliath you can see it if

[00:00:26] you’re watching us on YouTube right here you can see it up here she’s got it posted here fantastic book the subtitle

[00:00:32] is battling state and national teachers unions for the heart and soul of our kids and country and before I introduce

[00:00:38] or bring her on let me tell you a little bit about what she’s been through from April 2013 through June 2016 she was the

[00:00:47] lead plaintiff in a federal lawsuit attempting to restore the First Amendment rights of free speech and free

[00:00:53] association to millions of public sector workers in the United States now if you’ve been following this at all you

[00:00:58] you know about the Janis case and that past but she is before the Janis case her soup which was Friedreich’s versus

[00:01:05] California Teachers Association was filed with nine other teachers and the Christian educators educators Association International and that’s

[00:01:13] David schmooze brought suit against the NEA the CTA and ten local unions and

[00:01:19] superintendents now the oral arguments for that case took place in Washington

[00:01:24] DC at the Supreme Court on January 11 2016 but due to Justice Scalia’s death

[00:01:32] the court rendered a split four-four decision and Rebecca and her fellow plaintiffs petition for a rehearing of

[00:01:39] the case when a ninth Supreme Court justice could be appointed but that was

[00:01:45] denied on June in June of 2016 now interestingly enough the Janice case did

[00:01:53] pass in June of 2018 but we’re going to be talking all about what Rebecca is doing and where her

[00:01:59] where she got the impetus to start this movement and to say hey what’s happening

[00:02:05] with the teachers union and in the public schools is not good for our kids and it’s part it’s the big battle that

[00:02:11] word that’s taken place the culture war that happening all over so Rebecca thanks for being on the program today thanks for

[00:02:17] having me happy to be here so why don’t we start our back at the beginning give our listeners some of your background

[00:02:22] how you got in interested in what’s happening within the teacher unions and your own career and so forth sure I got

[00:02:29] interested when I was a student teacher I was 22 years old serving under this outstanding master

[00:02:35] teacher who taught me everything I know but next door was this teacher who was actually manhandling the children I

[00:02:40] witnessed it every single day they came up to her waist they were first graders she would grab them yank them and scream right in their

[00:02:47] little faces my goodness just trying to get them lined up after recess and I was disturbed by it and so I asked my master

[00:02:54] teacher you know I’m learning about a reporting child abuse and I think I see

[00:03:00] some and it’s the teacher next door and I don’t know what to do and that’s when my master teacher sat me down and she

[00:03:05] said Rebecca today’s the day you learn about teachers unions and she taught me that basically in many cases districts

[00:03:13] know there’s a problem with a teacher but they can’t get rid of them not just because of tenure but because of

[00:03:18] collectively bargained grievance procedures that make it almost impossible to rid themselves of these

[00:03:24] teachers so I decided right then I didn’t want to be a part of giving money or being part of an organization that

[00:03:30] would allow the abuse of little children who are supposed to be protected and then she told me how the unions were

[00:03:36] using teachers dues money to push all sorts of politics that most teachers abhor yeah so I was just disgusted so I

[00:03:44] didn’t want to be a part of it from the beginning and then I quickly found out when I signed my first contract that I

[00:03:49] didn’t have a choice I didn’t have to be a member of the Union I didn’t have to pay dues but I

[00:03:56] had to accept their representation and I had to pay fees and the difference between dues and fees was 50 bucks a

[00:04:03] year so I really had no choice yeah and that’s when my fight began yeah and so

[00:04:08] for those of you listening if you you know the public schools and the education system essentially there’s a

[00:04:13] monopoly on what’s happening in the public schools my heart for this whole issue is because I found it incredibly

[00:04:20] frustrating that we can’t present biblical perspectives on issues in the

[00:04:26] schools in the name of separation of church and state and then come to find out as I got older separation of church and state is not

[00:04:33] even in the Constitution thank you very much yeah exactly and so this was very

[00:04:38] frustrating to me so this has always been something that I’ve been passionate about and so as you you go down that

[00:04:43] road and as you’ve been exploring this what led to what what led up to the Friedreich’s the case at the Supreme

[00:04:51] Court what led up to that situation well I’d like to address something you just said first and that is that the National

[00:04:58] Education Association actually was started in the late 1800s by a bunch of teachers like myself who wanted to bring

[00:05:05] biblical values into our schools and the values were already there through the McGuffey readers and our schools were

[00:05:12] founded upon traditional judeo-christian values just like our country yeah and

[00:05:17] these teachers were creating little booklets that were full of Scripture full of stories of heroism and

[00:05:22] patriotism and it was their goal to get these little booklets into the hands of every single child in America through

[00:05:28] their teachers and teachers were learning in school to memorize these booklets and so that’s what teachers

[00:05:34] were doing yeah but then in the 60s the unions came in and unionized teachers

[00:05:40] the National Education Association and that’s where everything started going awry them and a few readers were removed

[00:05:46] and the values were removed so our case started after I had been teaching gosh I

[00:05:55] think twenty four years by the time we brought our lawsuit throughout my entire career I tried every way I knew how to

[00:06:01] make the voice of teachers parents and children heard in our schools I served as a union leader on the local union

[00:06:07] Executive Board I would go to school board meetings I’d speak to school board members privately I would work with

[00:06:13] parents did everything I possibly could and all the union’s did was bully me

[00:06:19] when I stood for vouchers because I believed they were good for children and you’re good for teachers and good for

[00:06:25] taxpayers I was bullied so I discovered that no matter what I did that was right

[00:06:31] for kids yeah I was always stopped by a union I was forced to fund yeah and so

[00:06:37] many I think I’ve heard other teachers feel the same way that hey this is and your book really speaks to this you were saying you have

[00:06:43] a lot of stories of teachers that have been put into that same situation mm-hmm that’s right so can you give us a little bit about that is that it those are

[00:06:50] basically your testimony multiplied that’s your experience is what’s in this book that’s right revelation 12:11 says

[00:06:56] we overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony yeah and we can’t be afraid yeah of death and a lot

[00:07:02] of people are afraid because the union’s are scary and so they’re afraid to speak out and so what I discovered is that

[00:07:07] teachers would take me into dark rooms and they would thank me for what I was doing fighting for them at a school

[00:07:13] board meeting or fighting for them in a meeting yeah but they wouldn’t stand up with me in public because they were too

[00:07:19] scared because everybody’s afraid to stick their neck out that’s right yeah so what happened when we took our case

[00:07:24] to the Supreme Court even though we lost because of Justice Scalia’s death in a lot of ways we won because well first we

[00:07:31] blazed the trail for the Jana’s case but teachers from all over the country started reaching out to me they’d find

[00:07:37] me through my work email or I don’t know how they just find me yeah and I started talking to some really brave teachers

[00:07:43] who were willing to share their stories with their names attached so I started collecting those stories and I have

[00:07:49] close to 50 stories in my book and I have other stories that didn’t make the book so there’s a lot of brave teachers

[00:07:54] and we share how the union’s bullied us into unionization in the 60s of a 90

[00:08:00] year old teacher in the book who shares her story of how five men in black suits came in to harass her when she didn’t

[00:08:06] join the Union feel like they did it twice that’s exactly what she said I have stories of teachers who tried to

[00:08:12] decertify the union’s who were who were treated I mean horribly just attacked one of

[00:08:19] them told me she felt like she was president Trump running for president of the United States because they were attacked her so much yeah I have stories

[00:08:25] of teachers who had the courage to cross the picket line because they wanted to protect their students and they were harassed harassed to this day for it so

[00:08:33] we all share our stories and we expose that what’s really going on in our schools is good and loving teachers are

[00:08:40] trying very hard to teach our kids but we are being undermined by an organization that not only takes our

[00:08:47] money to the tune of billions of dollars a year tax-free but they use it to

[00:08:53] undermine our very values and to bring harm to the students we love ya so essentially a political activism group

[00:08:59] it is and they’re now trying to teach our students to be social justice warriors actually they are doing that

[00:09:05] they have children out picketing and you know the March for our lives taking children out of the classroom using them

[00:09:11] as pawns in the gun debate across this entire country even though parents were upset and teachers were upset yeah so

[00:09:17] it’s gotten very out of control and I believe that teachers can stop it because teachers are the only ones who

[00:09:22] can say hey unions we don’t want you representing us anymore absolutely well my guest today is Rebecca Friedreich’s and her website for

[00:09:30] kids and country is if you if you’re passionate about this issue you know we working together we can make

[00:09:36] a much bigger difference than when we’re isolated in our own little classroom and and don’t know the the bigger picture

[00:09:43] and the other people that are fighting for what we’re fighting for so stay with us we’re gonna talk about how you can make a difference how Janice changed

[00:09:49] things and where we where we’re going next what’s the next step in this process of winning back the hearts and

[00:09:55] the souls of our kids and of our teachers and of our our nation really so

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[00:11:03] [Music] well welcome to educate for life I’m

[00:11:10] your host Kevin Conover my websites educate for life.org and you know in the title of my my ministry there it says

[00:11:16] educate write for a life I’m very passionate about the issue of education I believe personally that with our kids

[00:11:23] this is where it starts right the future generations are being educated the Bible says be transformed by the renewing of

[00:11:30] your mind but if 90% of our kids are going to public schools where essentially God has been outlawed and the case for a biblical worldview a

[00:11:36] judeo-christian worldview has been outlawed well then nobody’s mind is going to be renewed and what you’re

[00:11:42] going to end up with is a society that becomes more and more secularized and though all the problems we’re seeing

[00:11:47] with the gender issues with moral relativism with the the waning morality

[00:11:54] in our country a lot of those issues all come back to education and so my guest

[00:12:00] today is Rebecca Friedreich’s and she’s passionate about this she’s been fighting in this issue all the way up to

[00:12:05] the Supreme Court and she’s recently written a book about this standing up to Goliath which has the testimony of many

[00:12:12] teachers who have had to deal with the teachers unions and essentially been bullied into silence and this is

[00:12:18] important because you talked to some people and they go oh you’re just making this all up it’s a non-issue it’s it’s

[00:12:23] you know this people aren’t being hurt by this everybody everything’s fine but her book um talks all about this and has the

[00:12:30] testimonies of over 50 people that have had to deal with this so Rebecca you

[00:12:36] know there’s a lot of positive things that seem to have been happening recently with we’ve got a bunch of

[00:12:41] conservative Supreme Court justices Neil Gorsuch and and just recently another

[00:12:48] Supreme Court Justice Gavin Kavanagh and that’s good we have had the Janis case

[00:12:54] passed we have the expansion of school choice and charter schools so it seems

[00:13:00] like there’s all these positive things happening but can you explain to us what in the aftermath of Janis how does this

[00:13:08] change things for teachers what for our listeners who aren’t familiar with that process passed in June 2016 explain to

[00:13:15] them what Janis passing means for teachers unions and school well Janice Pasi means that every single

[00:13:24] government employee who is in a union now has the freedom to pay that Union

[00:13:31] nothing so if you’re a DMV worker va a police officer teacher fire whatever it

[00:13:37] is if you’re in a union you can leave now and pay them nothing the problem is as I’ve stated from day one is getting

[00:13:44] that win is just the first domino we have a lot of work to do because especially with teachers they’re too

[00:13:51] afraid to leave the Union there are a few brave ones so either illegal now they’re still concerned about losing

[00:13:57] their job or something oh yeah they’re terrified over a lot of things the main things bothering teachers is that

[00:14:03] they’re believing some deceptions first of all most teachers like their local Association because that’s a friend

[00:14:08] standing together in a very corrupt system they know that they need the power of uniting and they’re right

[00:14:14] they’re right but they don’t realize that most of the money they pay goes up

[00:14:20] to the state National Union and most of that money gets used for politics for example if a teacher pays a thousand

[00:14:26] dollars a year in California 700 automatically goes to the California Teachers Association that’s the state

[00:14:32] yeah 192 goes to the National Education Association so the local would keep a

[00:14:37] hundred eight dollars in that situation a thousand dollars yeah you know that it’s interesting that you bring that up because I actually was speaking at a

[00:14:44] church and I brought up the pot all this good stuff about Janice it was kind of an intro thing and then I went into what

[00:14:50] I was speaking on and I had a woman come up to me afterwards and go Janice is a horrible thing it’s not a good thing she

[00:14:56] said I’m the president of our local teachers union and she was actually really upset at me kind of caught me off guard because I was thinking wait a

[00:15:02] second here this is a good thing for being able to introduce you read them

[00:15:08] yeah freedom and and parental choice and everything else like you have free association

[00:15:13] you know but that’s something that you see as I caught a very common thing well it’s teachers are very confused and

[00:15:19] obviously that was probably a Christian teacher too who probably shares your values in here she is paying thousand dollars a year or more against her

[00:15:26] values because the teachers unions values are 100% against judeo-christian

[00:15:31] values and and aggressively so I have give us an example absolutely can I have some Christian teacher friends

[00:15:38] who serve at the National Education Association as representatives of teachers and when they bring in medically accurate information about sex

[00:15:46] education saying look some of the sex education is abusive teaching children

[00:15:51] there’s more than two genders or teaching little children to have sex out

[00:15:56] of wedlock as little kids or multiple partners or oral to anal sex things I

[00:16:02] don’t even know if I can say on the radio they’re teaching our little kids yeah so these teachers will go in and say at the national level we want

[00:16:09] balance let’s teach balance my friends have been spit upon for doing that and

[00:16:14] they have been told there’s a special place in hell for people like you for daring to try to defend and protect

[00:16:21] little children that’s what that Christian teacher is funding and the unions get that money tax-free close to

[00:16:28] five billion dollars a year tax-free from teachers like her what she doesn’t understand is her local probably is a

[00:16:34] lot of nice teachers but most of the money’s going up to the state and the national and being used to actually

[00:16:40] defeat her values I would guess that that teacher might tell you that she’s stressed out because we can’t discipline

[00:16:46] kids well in the classroom anymore the teachers unions supported that hmm racial equity discipline policies that

[00:16:53] came through the Obama administration I would guess that that teachers upset about the sex ed if she’s seen it

[00:16:58] because it if they haven’t seen it they don’t know but if they’ve seen it they’re mortified yeah and this is a

[00:17:04] huge problem here in San Diego because the San Diego City Schools there’s a big fight going on right now

[00:17:09] Dean Broyles has been on the program and talked about how they’re actually using essentially pornography in order to try

[00:17:16] to teach kids about sex and the point that he was making was that if this was

[00:17:23] taught by any teacher in a classroom it would be considered so out of line and so inappropriate and like you were

[00:17:29] saying abusive in a sense that how in the world that they’re able to get away

[00:17:35] with promoting this as sex education is they get away with it because the teachers unions are behind it the

[00:17:41] teachers unions help to write these laws they lobby for them and teachers have no idea that they’re fun

[00:17:47] this stuff and so you get a teacher like that who pushes back on you and you’re doing the right thing yes cuz she doesn’t know in my book I have three

[00:17:54] chapters exposing the sex ed who’s behind it where it’s coming from the unions are working in partnership with

[00:18:02] Southern Poverty Law Center n-double-a-cp ACLU Planned Parenthood all these

[00:18:08] different groups that are literally pushing an agenda of gay lesbian straight Education Network they’re

[00:18:14] working with all these very powerful groups and pushing an agenda into our schools against parental authority yeah

[00:18:22] teachers have no idea they’re funding it and and the whole thing is this is a free country if they want to live that

[00:18:28] lifestyle more power to them it is it’s their right to do that but it is not their right to bring it into our schools

[00:18:34] and damage our children with ideology yeah against their parents will exactly

[00:18:40] and these teachers don’t know they’re funding it yeah you know it’s amazing to Erick bureau told me that by far the

[00:18:47] vast majority of teachers in California would claim to have a Christian worldview and yet by far the vast

[00:18:55] majority of them are supporting these perspectives that are completely against

[00:19:02] biblical morality or or whatever the case and so that’s right so I guess the

[00:19:08] question is you know where’s the what are we missing here what’s the the step that we’re missing

[00:19:13] so what’s miss the problem is teachers have been deceived they’ve been told that their pay and their pension and

[00:19:19] their liability are dependent upon the Union so they’re afraid they’re going to get sued if they leave the Union they’re

[00:19:25] afraid they’re going to lose their jobs afraid they’ll lose their pensions afraid they’ll lose their contract with their district so what teachers need to

[00:19:32] know is that all of that is not true their contract is a legal document between their local and their district

[00:19:37] the state and national have nothing to do with it their pay and their pension is all funded by the taxpayers and their

[00:19:45] pensions by the way are in deep trouble because the unions won’t listen to us and they’re trillions in unfunded

[00:19:51] pension liabilities because the unions refuse to change into a different type of pension system which would be good

[00:19:57] for teachers so teachers are actually vulnerable and don’t know it and then the last thing is they think that the unions

[00:20:03] protect them from being sued because of this liability insurance well they can get that liability insurance on their

[00:20:09] own through Christian educators Association International or Association of American educators and they get

[00:20:15] double the coverage instead of 1 million they’ll get 2 million Wow so it’s better coverage and those folks will actually

[00:20:20] defend them I have a teacher friend who just lost her job in three days she paid her union dues faithfully for 26 years

[00:20:27] was fired in three days for daring to discipline a child she did nothing wrong

[00:20:32] so it’s it’s more like will defend you as long as you abide by what we think is right that we’re not protecting here

[00:20:38] we’re not protecting your job unless you’re all your your values are the same as ours that is exactly right and until

[00:20:44] teachers see that they’re gonna keep hanging on to that Union to their own demise to the demise of the country to

[00:20:50] the mice demise of the children so that’s why we wrote this book to educate teachers and help them to see the truth

[00:20:56] my guest today is Rebecca Friedreich’s her website for kids in country org and

[00:21:01] what the book she’s talking about here is standing up to Goliath battling state and national teachers unions for the

[00:21:07] heart and soul of our kids and country I can’t emphasize enough how significant

[00:21:12] this issue is it’s its premiere it’s really the pinnacle it’s the crux of the issue all the other

[00:21:17] issues that we’re dealing with when it comes to the issue of abortion and what’s happening in New York right now what’s happened in Virginia you know

[00:21:24] every even the people on the Left complaining about the sexism and and

[00:21:30] inequality and all these things it all comes back to what is your moral foundation what is your moral base and

[00:21:36] we’ve erased that from the heart and minds of the kids so stay with us we’re gonna talk more about this and what you

[00:21:42] can do on a practical level are you an elementary school teacher that’s teaching here in San Diego at an elementary school what’s the next step

[00:21:48] for you if you’re here in this call it’s it stirs your heart you’re concerned about these issues what can you do on a

[00:21:54] practical basis stay with us we’ll be right back [Music]

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[00:23:22] radio program we want to get this out to as many people as possible to let people know on social media because what I

[00:23:30] found is that for a lot of people it’s not that they wouldn’t be concerned it’s not even that they’re not concerned it’s

[00:23:35] that they’re just not aware of how they can make a difference and so Rebecca Friedreich’s is my guest she’s been very

[00:23:42] very much involved in this issue for a long time now and recently came out with out with a book that you should buy

[00:23:48] standing up to Goliath which really gives all the background on this issue and gives you a lot of the information

[00:23:54] you need to be able to talk about it intelligently right we want to be able to communicate this in a way that people

[00:24:00] can respond to and in my own experience you know there’s a lot of really good teachers out there they love God they

[00:24:07] love kids they work hard at their jobs and they have no intention of doing the

[00:24:12] wrong thing but they’ve been sucked up into this union and the unions have existed for so long and unions in and of

[00:24:18] themselves aren’t bad that’s not what we’re saying but currently the NEA the California Teachers Association their

[00:24:24] values do not match Christian values and you have an opportunity to change this now that Janice has passed you can you

[00:24:31] can opt out of supporting things that are contrary to what you believe so Rebecca talked to us about this what

[00:24:38] what can the teachers do you let’s say you’ve got this teacher at an elementary school she’s a part of the Union she

[00:24:45] hears what you’re saying she agrees with you but like you said she’s afraid that she’s going to offend her local union

[00:24:52] and she’s gonna lose her job and she’s not gonna be able to provide for her family right what do you say to that man that teacher I know so many of them are

[00:24:58] so frightened and I’ve walked in their shoes mm-hmm so what I would say to those teachers is

[00:25:03] this is nothing about being anti-union in fact most teachers want to be United

[00:25:09] we want to be a good Union yeah but the problem is we don’t want corruption and

[00:25:15] we have been corrupted by state national teachers unions are very profession has been degraded and

[00:25:21] corrupted by those unions so what I would say to a teacher like that is you have to start by educating yourself and

[00:25:27] educating your friends and that’s a whole reason I wrote this book was what I discovered was there are so many

[00:25:33] deceptions out there that teachers are believing and it’s because they’ve been told these things over and over in every

[00:25:39] staff meeting and through flyers in their mailbox and and so it’s not the fault of teachers but they’ve been

[00:25:46] deceived so I would ask that teacher to prayerfully consider reading this book

[00:25:52] for themselves getting educated when they read the stories they will be shocked every teacher I know who’s read

[00:25:58] this book so far has told me that they immediately opted out of the Union because they were so aghast at what they

[00:26:05] were funding and they didn’t know and they were so horrified by the hurt that’s being brought to children so do

[00:26:13] that first and then the second thing I recommend is I started a program called adopt a teacher I actually started that

[00:26:18] program prayerfully I was God’s idea yeah he always has great ideas and so

[00:26:24] the program is you just find every teacher you know and love teachers that you know share your good values like

[00:26:30] really care about the kids you put your arm around those teachers and you adopt them and I have 6yz that you follow and

[00:26:37] I have a little half half sheet flyer that’s on our website for kids in country or you can get it for free it

[00:26:42] shows you what to do how to love on them how to talk to them and you just give them a copy of the book and I have it in

[00:26:47] audio it’s on Kindle I mean you can get it for next to nothing online yeah and give them a copy and have them read it

[00:26:54] once they read it now you tell a friend they tell a friend data and I asked churches to do this to please adopt the

[00:27:00] teachers in your church stand with them teachers are terrified they can’t do this alone so I ask people parents faith

[00:27:07] leaders please stand with us and if we all stand together we can fight this absolutely we can help teachers to have

[00:27:13] a good united front locally without being corrupted you you mentioned

[00:27:19] something about the charter schools too and want to let teachers know if you love charter schools your union has a

[00:27:24] moratorium on charter schools they are trying to stop charter schools nationwide and this just happened in LA

[00:27:29] – yes it did past their City Council is that right what actually it was it was part of the

[00:27:34] UT LA strike okay a school board is being forced through that strike to place a moratorium on any new charters

[00:27:41] and they’re they’ve been asked to put pressure on the state to do the same thing and our state legislators will do

[00:27:47] it because the majority of them have been placed in office by the teachers they’re trying to stop all those charters the reason why is because

[00:27:53] charter schools are typically not unionized and it’s all about the union not getting their money and their power

[00:27:59] and their ability to bring their agenda in through our schools so it’s very imperative to protect our charters and

[00:28:06] our private schools and our homeschoolers a lot of homeschoolers think oh I’m not impacted oh yes you are because there if you read Union

[00:28:12] documentation they’re trying to stop homes owners yeah because they want every child in unionized public schools

[00:28:21] that are and they want to force every teacher to be a part of this Union ideology and if teachers won’t teach it

[00:28:27] like the sex ed the sex ed has a statement in it the law that if a teacher won’t teach it well that’s okay

[00:28:34] they bring the professionals in the experts in and Planned Parenthood will teach your children so teachers we can’t

[00:28:40] escape but we can’t put our heads in the sand yeah we have to stand up together it’s time for Christian teachers in

[00:28:46] particular to be brave yeah and and for others pastors and parents to be brave with us yeah and

[00:28:51] with and this is a good time to do it because there’s a lot of there’s a lot of momentum you know there’s a lot of people out there that are passionate

[00:28:57] about this I I hear about this issue way more than I used to in the past I mean as far as you know opting out that

[00:29:05] wasn’t an option just you know prior to 2018 so this is this is your chance to

[00:29:11] make a difference and actually begin to see some really really exciting and incredible change and so I was so if

[00:29:19] you’re at a church right now I mean and you’re listening think about the teachers in your congregation every

[00:29:24] congregation has teachers and and give them a free copy of this book get them

[00:29:31] informed because this is our biggest issue is ignorant right now so if you’re

[00:29:36] if you’re thinking why isn’t anything happening it’s not because the laws haven’t been passed the laws passed it’s

[00:29:41] not because we don’t have conservative justices we’ve got concern Justices it’s not because the opportunities aren’t there it’s simply

[00:29:48] because people just don’t know that’s right and so so if you would please join

[00:29:53] up with Rebecca for kids in country org that’s the website and that website has

[00:29:59] all kinds of resources on there and it has all kinds of people that are dealing with this issue and taking it head on

[00:30:04] and you can be encouraged and go ok how do I move forward in this so again her

[00:30:10] book is standing up to Goliath you can get it pretty much anywhere and read it get educated about this issue so my next

[00:30:17] question for you Rebecca is what how has Janice so far impacted things are you I know it seems

[00:30:24] to be that change is slow right and people are it takes a while for people to become informed but are you starting

[00:30:31] to see a few people trickle out of the unions and join the Christian Education Association International are you seeing

[00:30:38] that process starting to happen what kind of a positive lights are you seeing

[00:30:44] so the positive is yes some brave people are leaving the other positive though those who were already what we call fee

[00:30:51] payers they were non-members but had to pay all those fees yeah they were automatically led out of the Union they had to be legally so that’s good but the

[00:31:00] negative is yeah from day one from the minute our case was filed the unions

[00:31:05] started something called the Friedreich’s fix and they started creating all these fixes they named it

[00:31:10] after you go well quietly I don’t know if they named it that you know I I had to hear that from legislators who would

[00:31:16] tell me their ring and in the Friedreich’s fix huh and so they had all these fixes yeah it’s so that if we won

[00:31:21] they could undermine the law and they have been able to pass a lot of these fixes and have made them law now for

[00:31:28] example one of them is that every new employee in a union shop has to spend 30

[00:31:33] minutes with the union on company time on the taxpayer dime to learn about how great the union is and how much they

[00:31:39] need the union had to be pressured into the union and of course nobody else gets invited Christian educators doesn’t get

[00:31:45] invited so there’s a lot of pressure now the second thing is the unions and I knew they’d do this they raised the dues

[00:31:51] so they’re gonna get less because people have left but they just raise them they

[00:31:57] don’t have we don’t have to vote for our dues to be raised as teachers they’re just raised Wow just so Garbutt rarely at their whim yep

[00:32:04] that’s right and so they’re doing those kind of things but the biggest thing they did that I think is really shameful

[00:32:12] and I want people to know about it and that is during oral arguments in the

[00:32:17] Janis case the union attorney ended the arguments by stating that if the

[00:32:24] justices he basically threatened the justices that if you let these employees go and they don’t have to pay fees there

[00:32:30] is going to be quote an untold specter of union unrest across the country

[00:32:35] because union dues I forget his exact words but yeah he bit and he said that

[00:32:41] union dues are the the I forget the words he use but like the payment for no strikes okay he was threatening them that’s what

[00:32:48] we’re seeing right now strikes all over the country what I want teachers and others to know is don’t be used by these

[00:32:55] people these strikes aren’t to really to get you a better salary or to do better

[00:33:00] things for the kids these strikes are to give the unions more power and and they’re basically it’s they’re keeping

[00:33:07] their threat they’re creating all this labor unrest and they are claiming that it’s a grassroots movement this red for

[00:33:14] IDI teacher strike movement it’s not I’ve talked to teachers who were on the ground part of making red for IDI they

[00:33:20] were you know they believed the lies at the time they helped create it as union

[00:33:26] leaders and they told me the union was always there we weren’t a grassroots movement oh yeah and as soon as we got

[00:33:32] our raise and we were all happy the Union did not even say thank you to the governor this was the state of Arizona

[00:33:39] instead they morphed red Fred in to invest in ed to raise taxes on Arizonans so this is what the unions are doing

[00:33:46] they’re using teachers to push their agenda to raise more taxes to get you

[00:33:51] know they’re they’re really into the very far left ideology and that’s what

[00:33:57] they’re doing so that’s the negative but that’s their big temper tantrum if we

[00:34:03] stand up in in good faith and in integrity and say I’m not going to be

[00:34:08] used and I’m not going to stand for this people threatening the justices of the

[00:34:14] Supreme Court of the United States and and having these massive temper tantrums

[00:34:19] on our dime if we stand up and say I’m not gonna pay you anymore um you know I’d like to say to teachers you know a

[00:34:25] lot of us have stood up and left the Union and we’re still alive yeah we’re still here and I just hope

[00:34:31] that they will and I hope people will stand with them because we really can’t stop that mess yeah absolutely

[00:34:36] I’m very optimistic about it I think a lot of times in the face of it you can be very discouraged but the reality is

[00:34:43] is there’s good things happen all over the place so you know what the number one thing you can do is get yourself

[00:34:49] educated read the book and when you hear the stories it’s gonna motivate you to

[00:34:54] go hey you know what there’s no way I can just lie down and take this I need to leave this Union and I need to join

[00:35:00] another Union you can still be a part of a union but a union that has supports your values and so we have one more

[00:35:07] segment left stay with us we’re gonna talk a little bit more about Christian education educators Association

[00:35:12] International and other things you can do to still be protected and do just great so stay with us with us my guest

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[00:36:22] [Music] hey thanks for being with us today this

[00:36:28] is educate for life I’m your host Kevin Conover and we’re talking to Rebecca Friedreich’s today and you know she’s

[00:36:35] all about the education system she was a teacher for a very long time how long were you a teacher 28 years 28 years and

[00:36:40] so she knows teaching in the public schools inside and out I I ran for

[00:36:46] school board a couple years back because I was so concerned about what was happening in the schools and you know

[00:36:53] find a way to get involved in what’s happening her book is standing up to Goliath battling state and national

[00:36:59] teachers unions for the heart and soul of our kids and country and while we were off the air Rebecca and I were

[00:37:04] chatting and you know sometimes it feels like who is our enemy here they seem so

[00:37:11] elusive sometimes because I’m sure that stat that you shared with me off the air yes I wanted teachers especially to know

[00:37:17] yeah that the National Education Association has run some studies three different times I believe the first time

[00:37:23] was 1971 the most recent was in 2006 and these in these internal studies they

[00:37:29] asked teachers what is your where do you lean politically yeah and what they

[00:37:34] discovered was only 13% of teachers consider themselves decisively on the

[00:37:40] left yet almost a hundred percent of union dues go to the far left okay and

[00:37:48] then they discovered that about sixty percent of teachers lean conservative

[00:37:54] and so teachers really am my experience as a teacher most teachers I know they

[00:38:00] might not vote conservative but they at least have conservative values absolutely they care about ya they care about kids so if you care

[00:38:07] about a kid you don’t want you don’t want a kid abused you don’t want a kid going off and getting an abortion you don’t want how these sorts of things and

[00:38:13] so hey if you’re out there you’re not alone we just got to speak up right we’re all hiding

[00:38:19] I’m afraid that somebody’s gonna find out that hey I’m a conservative or I I voted for Trump or whatever it might be

[00:38:26] but if we just speak up and begin to make people more aware of hey this makes sense and that’s the other thing too is

[00:38:31] that it’s just common sense it’s not as if it’s it’s confusing to be

[00:38:37] conservative about edge and about these sorts of things we all want education to get better if you have

[00:38:44] charter schools well I had somebody say to me you know they were looking at the stats between a charter school in a

[00:38:50] public school and they said well this charter school is not doing as good as the public school and I said you know that’s not the issue the issue isn’t

[00:38:55] whether charter schools do better than public school it’s the fact that charter schools bring in competition remarket

[00:39:00] and they force public schools to have better accountability that’s right better choice exam tell you my husband

[00:39:06] is the on a school board for a charter school it’s only in its third year of its existence this past year they scored

[00:39:15] the highest scores in the state Wow for raised scores children bringing up

[00:39:21] their scores highest in the state they’re in the middle of Santa Ana in a depressed area their students are second

[00:39:28] language and they cater to foster children foster children get the first spots in the school okay right up the

[00:39:34] union’s lie to people and they say Oh charters don’t take kids with trouble Oh char ters don’t take kids on IEP s that

[00:39:40] is not true there might be some charters who specialized in certain things and so they’re not gonna take an IEP but I have

[00:39:46] a niece on an IEP who was in a charter and loved it and thrived there yeah and

[00:39:52] so it’s not true that charters aren’t doing as well in fact in most cases

[00:39:57] charters are doing better yeah and the unions have told teachers that charters don’t have have to live up to the same

[00:40:03] standards that’s not true either they just don’t have to be unionized so the Union doesn’t want them to exist so it’s

[00:40:10] just it’s important for people to get educated like you said we just we just don’t understand another thing you said

[00:40:16] made me think of something Christ would tell us and that that is don’t shine your hide your light under a bushel we

[00:40:24] have to shine our light and when I started really fighting this fight it was because the Lord laid on my heart

[00:40:30] that when we’re light we shine light on darkness and if we don’t shine light on

[00:40:35] darkness then we’re not being the light of Christ yeah and so we have to shine that truth and the other thing he really

[00:40:41] laid on my heart was he led me to the story of the Widow’s mite and where

[00:40:46] Christ saw this Widow putting a couple mites which is like two pennies into the offering and he told his disciples she

[00:40:52] just gave more than all the wealthy because she gave out of her nothing cuz I was terrified teachers I was terrified to

[00:40:58] stand up yeah I was terrified to speak out I was terrified to write an op-ed I’d never written an op-ed in my life

[00:41:05] yeah several years ago but it was the Lord that laid it on my heart and said just give me your two mites Rebecca you

[00:41:10] let me worry about everything else and my goodness all I wanted was an op-ed he took me to the United States Supreme

[00:41:16] Court that’s incredible yeah I mean you can’t you can’t limit God yeah so we can’t look at it as our battle against

[00:41:23] these scary people it’s God’s battle against those scary people and we just need to follow him have faith

[00:41:29] yeah and the thing is too is is not everybody’s gonna go to the Supreme Court but we all play a part we all play

[00:41:34] that role and it’s significant whether you’re impacting millions or whether you’re impacting your neighbor

[00:41:40] across the street it’s the body of Christ and it’s all significant and you know something came to my mind while I

[00:41:46] was listening to this is that there’s a there’s a psychological phenomenon where if you see somebody in distress I was

[00:41:54] watching a show on this the other day if you see somebody in distress people tend to think to themselves somebody else

[00:42:00] will handle them right they were talking about first responders and how first responders are trained not to say

[00:42:06] somebody called 9-1-1 or somebody you know go get a first-aid kit but they

[00:42:13] actually have to point out at the person and say you you go get the first-aid here the one yeah you’re the one because

[00:42:19] otherwise everybody just sits back and goes well somebody else is gonna do it right so I kinda you want to look at the

[00:42:24] camera there Rebecca whoever you are if you’re watching this I’m kind of want to call you out right you’re the one right

[00:42:32] and we’re not asking you to change the whole world we’re just asking you to talk to your neighbor talk to your local

[00:42:37] teacher talk to the person down the street or talk to your pastor talk to somebody and tell them about what’s

[00:42:44] going on and and I’m marketing her book I’m not getting any Commission on this

[00:42:49] or anything I’m just marketing her book because it’s the information that you need to be able to sit to be able to

[00:42:56] walk away from the Union to let go of that harness that’s holding you back

[00:43:02] from being able to make a difference and it’s just hugely significant I can’t overstate the importance of what

[00:43:08] we’re talking about that in order for things to change in order for us to see

[00:43:14] I actually believe and I’m praying for a revival through education that what

[00:43:19] happens is as God you know in the State of the Union address just recently Trump

[00:43:24] said I’m fighting for Bibles in I’m fighting for teaching the Bible in the

[00:43:31] public schools that’s how our school started exactly exactly and from that

[00:43:36] comes the ability to be educated well CS Lewis has a quote that I love he said

[00:43:43] education without values only seems to make man a more clever devil yes and

[00:43:48] that quote and and Martin Luther King has a quote also where he says

[00:43:57] specifically that a man who is educated but has no values only becomes a it’s

[00:44:05] essentially the same quote I can’t I can’t remember I’m familiar with it too yeah but the point is is that we have a

[00:44:12] public school system in which we’re growing individuals that are learning well to some degree they’re learning but

[00:44:19] they’re not there’s no basis in that’s their value systems so what do you end up with you end up with somebody who

[00:44:24] takes advantage of other people through the knowledge that they have right and that’s not what we want right nning well

[00:44:30] and our founders made it very clear that the only way that you can keep a

[00:44:36] republic our country is a republic the only way you can keep that is through an

[00:44:41] educated and moral citizenry and so our founders made it very clear if you go

[00:44:48] back and read their documents that they wanted a school system that had a moral

[00:44:54] basis in the Bible absolutely and they make it very clear they weren’t teaching religion they were teaching

[00:45:01] judeo-christian values so this country’s founded upon and if people think we can keep our Republic without them they are

[00:45:07] wrong yeah and absolutely what we’re watching absolutely that’s what we’re watching and real quick I just want to

[00:45:13] make an another point on this real quick because the natural thing that comes up in people’s minds is well if we begin

[00:45:18] teaching the Bible what about all these other religions and what about Buddhism what about Islam

[00:45:24] what about atheism right and they say don’t we need to teach these other religions and the answer is no because

[00:45:31] for two reasons first of all the country wasn’t founded on those particular religions and therefore we can’t tie our

[00:45:37] success and our prosperity and our well-being to those particular religions but beyond that if you look at countries

[00:45:45] that have embraced Islam for example what is the natural byproduct of embracing the Quran well it’s the

[00:45:51] oppression of women it’s a woman is worth half as much as a man it’s all kinds of things that put people down and

[00:45:59] and if you look at Buddhism and all these different things so from an apologetics perspective that’s what I am I’m an apologetics teacher so I’m

[00:46:05] constantly defending the truth of God’s Word why are we learning the Bible because everywhere the Bible goes there

[00:46:13] is well-being there is health there’s father’s becoming better fathers there’s parents becoming better parents

[00:46:19] there’s bosses becoming better bosses people are more generous they’re more

[00:46:25] kind they’re doing everything that’s good so you know I’ve talked to some teachers who taught in those olden days

[00:46:30] there’s a 90 year old teacher in my book it’s dedicated to a hundred one year old teacher well I talk about her she’s my

[00:46:36] aunt and those teachers told me that it wasn’t so much that they were teaching

[00:46:43] they weren’t teaching Christianity they were teaching the values yeah so right

[00:46:49] and so it’s this what do we all think about the golden rule do unto others as you’d have them do unto you I don’t know

[00:46:55] anyone who disagrees with the golden rule yeah well that’s what we were teaching in our schools that’s good and

[00:47:01] valuable and that leads to all the good and the beautiful and that’s what we were be kind that’s a theme in my book

[00:47:07] from aunt Jolene be kind that’s what she would teach her students be kind well and then I show people that the unions

[00:47:14] have taught us literally with these words quote be pissed off so what should

[00:47:19] we be teaching children to be pissed off or to be kind I think everyone would

[00:47:25] agree that kindness wins the day absolutely Rebecca thank you so much for being on the program today it’s been a big

[00:47:30] blessing having you thank you absolutely so if you if you didn’t get to hear the whole interview this will be up on our

[00:47:36] podcast it’ll be recorded it’s also gonna air on Sunday if you want to see Rebecca in person and you’re listening

[00:47:42] today you can catch her she’s speaking at the Republican the local Republican

[00:47:47] Party’s event this evening a Tony Kubek and a bunch of great people are going to

[00:47:52] be down there so you can catch her down there and if you want to get a copy of her book you can buy it there or you can buy it online wherever you wherever you

[00:47:59] like so thank you for being with us today and what my seat just dropped that was funny I’m going out okay god bless

[00:48:07] you have a great day thanks for being with us bye-bye did you miss part of today’s program don’t worry work Hamid to

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