What is the Biblical Significance of the Deep State? – Alex Newman

[00:00:02] okay welcome to educate for life i’m your host kevin conover and my website is educate4life.org

[00:00:08] if you’ve been following along we’ve been having all kinds of guests on the show we just had uh dr james fazio

[00:00:14] last week we talked a lot about um forge from reformation we talked about

[00:00:19] the reformation we talked about uh dispensationalism which is relevant to the topic we’re talking about today we talked about the

[00:00:26] different ages that the bible talks about how god has interacted with humanity in different ways throughout time and uh

[00:00:32] we’re going to be touching now today on the deep state and also on uh what’s happening now with when you

[00:00:38] look at things like the book of revelation the book of daniel when we see what’s happening in israel we see what’s happening with our

[00:00:44] government here today how does this all play and what does the word of god have to say about those things before we jump in um i just want to

[00:00:50] encourage you my website educate4life.org we’ve got over 40 online classes there that are meant to help you and your family have a firm

[00:00:56] foundation in the word of god a firm faith in the word of god and uh you can check it out it’s got all

[00:01:01] kinds of resources on there as well as interviews with scientists from all over the world with experts on different areas of theology all over

[00:01:08] the world and people who have left things like islam muhammad daniel or

[00:01:14] i’m sorry daniel messiah who used to be muhammad camel left islam had a supernatural experience

[00:01:19] with jesus christ and became a christian and began to share the gospel all over the place and our guest today is alex newman he is

[00:01:27] the founder and president of liberty sentinel you can check that out at libertysentinel.org and he has an awesome testimony about

[00:01:35] how he came to christ and it was through um basically as far as i understand it’s studying prophecy

[00:01:40] he’s a journalist educator author and he’s been on numerous different uh publications written for numerous

[00:01:46] publications and um he he’s been studying the deep state now for around 12 years

[00:01:51] so alex thanks a lot for being on the program today thank you so much for having me kevin it’s a pleasure to be with you

[00:01:57] yeah i find it really interesting um that you actually became convinced the word of god was

[00:02:02] true because of the fact that you started studying things like the deep state the the prophecies coming true i haven’t

[00:02:08] heard too many people say hey that’s the way i became a christian but tell us a little bit about that how did that happen

[00:02:13] sure it’s an honor and a pleasure to be able to tell that story i was in college and you know even from

[00:02:19] the time i was probably 16 or 17 i was so far down the wrong path i mean you know people would just be shocked

[00:02:25] and appalled if they knew the kind of stuff that i was into but um when i was 16 or 17 i started

[00:02:30] getting the sense that something was really wrong with the way the world worked with the the systems the governments and all that

[00:02:36] uh and i started i actually got expelled from school for a lot of reasons but i tried to redeem myself get a ged get into college like

[00:02:43] everybody’s supposed to so i did that and in college um i started reading i

[00:02:48] started that was just when youtube had had recently come out so i started watching documentaries on youtube

[00:02:54] and i really got fascinated by this effort to create a world government

[00:03:00] system and there was so much evidence for this it was impossible to ignore i mean it was just in your face yeah they don’t

[00:03:05] tell you really in the media what’s going on they don’t put the pieces together but it was too obvious to ignore it there was so much out there

[00:03:11] and one day i as i was researching all this i started a newspaper with some friends and we were

[00:03:16] we were working on this kind of stuff trying to get the the truth as we saw it out to the public and uh the holy spirit just kind of came

[00:03:24] over me and uh it was like you know all this stuff that i’m here researching and

[00:03:29] studying uh you know god actually talked about that 2 000 years ago i was kind of vaguely familiar

[00:03:34] with these prophecies that there was going to be this coming antichrist global system that was going to reign over the world for a period of

[00:03:41] time and and when it all connected i actually ran outside my house with my cell phone and i called my godmother who

[00:03:47] also happens to be my aunt and i said aunt jackie and jack you’ve been right all along the bible’s really true

[00:03:52] it was such an exciting moment and it took me a very long time you know it took me years to to leave behind all my

[00:04:00] unbiblical beliefs and to really get more into a biblical worldview you know i was an evolutionist for the longest time it took me a really

[00:04:06] long time to unbrainwash myself as i say but it really was studying this stuff that that the holy spirit used to to

[00:04:13] bring me around that’s pretty incredible you know i uh when i was growing up i had a pastor who

[00:04:18] he talked about the end of the world all the time like all the time it was constantly coming up and he was referencing the news and everything and

[00:04:25] sometimes i was like man why does he talk about this so much you know much later on down the road

[00:04:30] i realized you know why he talks about this so much is because that’s what the bible says to do it says constantly remind one another

[00:04:37] right of the coming of christ of of what’s happening of what god’s doing that this world is temporary

[00:04:42] and so it’s so important and it kind of lights a fire under us and goes wait a second you know

[00:04:47] um we’re putting down roots here uh on planet earth when in fact the reality

[00:04:52] is is god wants us to be heavenly minded um and and about his coming so that’s really cool what you’re

[00:04:58] doing um what is some i mean 12 years is a long time that you’ve been studying the deep state um has this been in your mind has this

[00:05:05] been something that’s growing is it a growing development is is it something that startup or is this is it um just manifesting more what’s

[00:05:12] going on uh you know from the long range perspective here yeah good question i i say it’s

[00:05:18] really just coming out of the closet more and more you know they were kind of secretive about it i mean they would still talk

[00:05:23] semi-openly about it in their publications and uh you know georgia h.w bush of

[00:05:29] course famously came out in 1991 while he was invading iraq and he said you know the first bush and said it’s

[00:05:34] about much more than just one small country it’s a big idea it’s about a new world order and then he gave details it’s a

[00:05:41] world in which a credible united nations is going to use its peacekeeping role which of course it

[00:05:47] means it’s military force and i was brought up so indoctrinated i went to international schools all my life so it was constant u.n

[00:05:53] so when he said peacekeeping role i knew right away they were talking about military forces they have them peacekeeping troops uh to bring about

[00:05:59] the world envisioned by the un’s founders and he talked about we’re going to have a system where the rule of law

[00:06:04] is going to govern the conduct of nations of course we’re talking about global law here and and that was really just in your

[00:06:10] face but now they’ve moved on to kind of the next phase right now they’re just openly

[00:06:17] training up the children in the public schools for this global system that’s emerging it’s just it’s just become so

[00:06:22] much more obvious what they’re trying to do and and the details are becoming more clear too and

[00:06:27] if you read scripture you already know all of this but what i find so fascinating is how

[00:06:32] current events actually just confirm what god revealed to us in his word and that’s why you know touching on what you said

[00:06:40] a lot of people think this is a message of doom and gloom that oh my goodness a world government is coming and they’re going to persecute christians

[00:06:46] it’s the exact opposite of a message of doom and gloom it’s a message of redemption it’s a

[00:06:51] message that our our lord our savior our king is coming back and he’s going to smash the evil that

[00:06:57] has overtaken this world and if you haven’t realized that evil is running amok i challenge you to turn on the news for crying out loud it’s i mean

[00:07:03] it’s hard to avoid it but guess what god’s coming back and he’s gonna fix it so that is a message of hope

[00:07:08] and encouragement our hope is not in this world it’s not in you know politicians or governments or

[00:07:14] systems or or money or any of that it’s all got to be in god and he’s going to come back

[00:07:19] and he’s going to make it right yeah that’s great that’s a great message too because that is how a lot of people

[00:07:25] receive it as soon as you start talking about these sorts of things people are like oh no you know the end of the world and

[00:07:30] and i’m i’m an apologist and i have students when when we bring this up or we touch on this we begin to talk about

[00:07:36] some of the prophecies that are coming true what they’re doing over in israel and and so forth and they’re like oh no no

[00:07:41] you know the students always say i just want to get married before jesus comes back

[00:07:48] hey relax it’s okay it’s going to be a lot better than marriage marriage is great marriage is great it’s

[00:07:53] god ordained and praise god for it but the fact of the matter is is that our relationship with god is

[00:07:58] uh so much greater and it’s going to be so much more of a blessing but i wanted to ask you about that also and

[00:08:04] that is um you know you said that people are coming more they’re more bold about it they’re speaking more openly about it

[00:08:10] it does seem like it’s in the news and we talk about this socialist movement that’s happening in america the the communist movement

[00:08:17] even that is uh much more bold and much more like you said in your face and and it seems people are uh think it’s

[00:08:24] acceptable right um but so give us some of the things that were happening

[00:08:30] you know 12 years ago when you began studying this give it give us some of the things that were happening that represent the deep state so for

[00:08:36] example a lot of people they don’t have a lot of idea about what the deep state is um give us your definition if somebody

[00:08:42] were to say define the deep state what exactly is that what would your definition be excellent question brilliant question

[00:08:48] it’s funny i actually just wrote a book i told you a minute ago i got it about five minutes before we started i got my first copies of it and

[00:08:54] it’s called deep state uh the invisible government behind the scenes and so on on a superficial level you know

[00:09:00] there’s polling now that shows that 75 percent of americans recognize we have a deep state and that’s good that’s that’s

[00:09:05] progress that people recognize that uh something is going on that we’re not being told about the way they defined it

[00:09:10] in the poll is a group of government and military officials who are kind of secretly

[00:09:16] manipulating policy and and that kind of scratches the surface but

[00:09:21] it really barely scratches the surface i mean it’s like looking at an iceberg and you see the little tip sticking out of

[00:09:26] the water and you’re like hey there’s a little piece of ice no actually it’s this massive iceberg and so so when i talk about the deep

[00:09:32] state you know in the physical level we do have you know what the popular understanding there’s bureaucrats within

[00:09:37] the federal government there’s uh you know powerful people kind of operating behind the scenes pulling the strings of politicians and all that

[00:09:44] um and there’s you know secretive and semi-secretive organizations there’s a lot of secret societies that

[00:09:50] very very powerful people in the united states and around the world are involved in uh the skull and bones the bohemian

[00:09:55] grove out where you guys are in california you know 2 500 of the most powerful men in the

[00:10:01] world get together and they have this 40-foot stone owl and they you know they say they’re burning a human effigy there

[00:10:07] okay so you know clearly there’s a lot going on behind the scenes there every republican president incidentally

[00:10:12] since the 1920s with the exception of the current one president donald trump has been in attendance at this bohemian

[00:10:18] grove with their weird rituals uh you’ve got things like skull and bones at yale that i mentioned multiple

[00:10:23] presidents multiple supreme court justices multiple senators uh ceos of the biggest companies uh and

[00:10:29] you know they’re just obsessed with death right their logo is actually a skull and crossbones and they do death rituals they showed some footage

[00:10:36] from that on abc news of all places and so again you kind of see a little bit deeper into the iceberg when you see

[00:10:42] these weird things going on behind the scenes and god talks about these people they prefer that their deeds be in darkness

[00:10:47] so that people don’t see them but then as christians we need to recognize that it’s even deeper than

[00:10:53] that and ultimately ephesians 6 12 tells us we are not wrestling against flesh and blood okay people are not our enemy there are

[00:11:01] very powerful as paul writes in in ephesians 6 12 there are uh

[00:11:06] principalities and powers and and the rulers of darkness of this world and

[00:11:11] spiritual wickedness in high places we’re talking about um just as the bible

[00:11:16] explains uh satanic forces that really you know the bible calls satan the god of this

[00:11:22] world it calls them the prince of this world and that’s not to say that satan is a god it’s just to say that

[00:11:29] many if not i would say most people are deceived and they live in the kingdom of darkness and we as

[00:11:34] christians we have been called out of that darkness and we’ve been brought into god’s kingdom and now we are ambassadors

[00:11:40] of god but so the deep state is really you know satan is the commander-in-chief and his minions

[00:11:46] some knowingly some unknowingly are implementing his agenda and of course we know that god is ultimately sovereign he

[00:11:52] will uh use all of this for his own glory but it’s very clear that exactly the way

[00:11:58] the bible describes reality that is exactly what’s going on in the real world and you can confirm it using

[00:12:04] objective verifiable data and evidence so that’s what i was going to ask you you know a lot of people as soon as you start

[00:12:10] talking about uh skull and bones you you’re talking about the bohemian grove and you’re talking about these sorts of things

[00:12:15] you’re talking about you know illuminati comes up all the time like my students constantly is that the illuminati and you know it’s

[00:12:21] like the conspiracy among the high school students talking about the illuminati and so forth and and so um

[00:12:27] the evidence that you’re talking about when we’re talking about fact-based evidence um that’s available to be able to

[00:12:34] you’re confident these are fact-based uh this is not a conspiracy theory without evidence it’s not assertions this is

[00:12:40] fact-based information it absolutely is and you know i would say first let’s go to scripture uh scripture in psalm 2 verse 2 tells us

[00:12:47] that the kings of the earth conspire is the term that a lot of translations use

[00:12:52] against the lord and against his anointed one talking about jesus christ of course and by extension against his

[00:12:58] people um so you know god already told us that this is what we should expect to see

[00:13:03] in the world it turns out that is really what we see in the world and so i i’ve given a sermon i think that’s what you came across

[00:13:09] that’s how um you came across me but uh just over the last few months i’ve given this sermon in several different

[00:13:15] churches about this subject and one of the things that i do because i recognize a lot of people have almost been

[00:13:21] conditioned they hear the term conspiracy and oh my goodness that can’t possibly be true conspiracy is a very simple

[00:13:26] definition prosecutors charge americans with conspiracy every day of the year every business day of the year

[00:13:31] somebody’s charged with conspiracy it just means two or more people working in secret for some illegal

[00:13:37] immoral wicked evil intent that’s that’s what a conspiracy means the idea that there are not conspiracies

[00:13:42] is ludicrous in fact the bible talks about multiple conspiracies uh and and the evidence that there are

[00:13:47] conspirators working toward this world system uh is just in your face and at some point you say well that’s not

[00:13:54] even a conspiracy anymore let me give you an example david rockefeller who i would say is one of the uh was one

[00:13:59] of the he went to go meet his maker i think last year a year before last and he wrote an autobiography it’s called

[00:14:06] memoirs and this was published i believe in 2004. you can go down to your local library and get a copy write this down

[00:14:11] on page 405. i actually have the quote in front of me so i’ll read it just um

[00:14:16] to make sure i get every word of it right but he says um where did i put that here we go

[00:14:24] he says and this is a direct quote from david rockefeller some even believe that we as in the rockefeller family are

[00:14:29] part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the united states characterizing my family and me as

[00:14:36] internationalists and of conspiring that’s his term conspiring with others around the world to build a

[00:14:43] more integrated global and political political and economic structure one world if you will then he says if that’s the

[00:14:50] charge i stand guilty and i’m proud of it so here you have one of the most powerful people

[00:14:56] in the world right the old joke was why doesn’t david rockefeller run for president well he doesn’t want a demotion

[00:15:03] and so here you have the guy admitting in his own autobiography that he’s conspiring with a secret cabal to build a one world

[00:15:10] order of one world political and economic order how much more i mean they know most people don’t read anymore so they’re not worried about

[00:15:16] putting it in their books they know that most people don’t go to the library but it’s right there for anybody to see and i’ve got you know

[00:15:21] videos of plenty bill clinton george h.w bush joe biden all of them talking about this

[00:15:28] new world order that they’re building and they tell you what it is it’s a world governing system so for those of you

[00:15:34] listening my guest today is alex newman you can check him out at libertysentinel.org and he’s an expert on the deep state and

[00:15:40] the new world order in fact this is how he came to christ was through studying this and figuring out whoa the bible is telling the truth

[00:15:46] here it’s happening right before our eyes and you know that should be something we all have to take to heart is that you

[00:15:52] don’t know um what’s happening unless you study the word of god because the word of god

[00:15:57] is what illuminates us to what’s going on around the world and makes sense of it all and i wanted to ask you alex so in that

[00:16:04] regard what is the objective we know the objective is okay we want a better economic system we want it unified you

[00:16:10] know we want this one world currency and these sorts of things but why is this against god um i was having

[00:16:17] a conversation with somebody the other day and they said we were having this conversation about the technology the technology was

[00:16:24] uh getting so advanced that you were easily going to be able to incorporate what the bible says regarding currency

[00:16:31] and all these other things because the technologies available to be able to do it

[00:16:36] and the question came up should we be fighting the technology or is this inevitable and should we just

[00:16:43] you know go okay well this is where it’s going um so is this something is the is the new world order something we should be

[00:16:49] fighting against uh as christians who have become aware of it or is it something that we should be thinking

[00:16:55] hey this is the this is the path that’s it’s going and we just need to continue to share the

[00:17:00] gospel and realize that christ is coming back soon excellent question

[00:17:05] and i think it’s something something everybody should pray about i would argue that sharing the gospel is by definition

[00:17:11] fighting the new world order when you’re sharing the truth when you’re sharing the love of christ

[00:17:16] with the world you are basically waging full-on warfare with the enemy um

[00:17:24] paul you know i quoted ephesians 6 12 earlier paul talks about this massive spiritual

[00:17:30] battle that we’re in and he talks about what our weapons are he says our weapon in this battle is the sword of the

[00:17:35] spirit which is the word of god so we are to fight against the new world order we are to fight against satan and

[00:17:42] all of his plans not in a literal sense i’m not recommending that somebody go buy a firearm or that somebody joined a

[00:17:48] militia or something i’m saying god has told us what our tools are to do this uh and you know in in my personal life uh

[00:17:55] one scripture that has always spoken to me i mean since i’ve been a journalist ephesians 5 11.

[00:18:00] god tells us we should have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness so absolutely no alliance no allegiance no no

[00:18:07] fellowship no nothing with the people that are trying to accomplish this and more importantly with the with the dark spiritual forces involved

[00:18:14] but rather paul says we should reprove them or some translations use the term expose them

[00:18:20] and so i you know i take that to heart i take it literally and hey god said have nothing to do with them but expose

[00:18:25] them and reprove them and so hey i’m going to expose and i’m going to reprove at every possible opportunity if god

[00:18:30] gives me a person to share the truth with i will expose i will reprove and and i will share the love of god so you

[00:18:36] know it is inevitable that we are going to end up with this global system i don’t know if it’s coming in

[00:18:42] two years or 22 years or 200 years but as you mentioned the technology is now here um i

[00:18:48] actually i opened the sermon that i that i just mentioned with revelation chapter 13 verses 16 and 17 and he

[00:18:55] causes all both small and great rich and poor free and bond to receive a mark in their hand

[00:19:00] or in their foreheads and that no man might buy or sell save he that had the mark or the name of the beast or the

[00:19:07] number of his name now 2 thousand years ago when uh when jesus christ revealed this

[00:19:12] to john that must have sounded so ludicrous to people of the day right i mean your

[00:19:17] average person didn’t know what was going on in the next village much less could they imagine a system where every single human being on this

[00:19:24] planet would have to comply with something to be able to buy or sell i mean it just must have sounded absolutely bonkers

[00:19:30] and yet now praise god we are living in a day where we can see the machinery for this

[00:19:36] coming into place we have a push for a global cash flow society there’s no coronavirus you’re going to get coronavirus and die

[00:19:42] we’ve got to get rid of cash because it’s going to spread coronavirus uh of course they’ve been pushing this for a long time the better than cash alliance

[00:19:48] was formed in 2012 it’s got backing from the united nations the international monetary fund the u.s

[00:19:54] government uh you know every one of the major billionaire funded foundations i mean it’s ubiquitous now uh the global

[00:20:01] currency system is coming into place the imf the international monetary fund is openly talking about the need to

[00:20:06] transition toward this new global reserve currency system based on their special drawing rights

[00:20:11] so we see all of this coming into play now and you know again 2 000 years ago it must

[00:20:17] have sounded crazy today it’s like hey that’s kind of just the other day elon musk is talking about we’re going to open a piece of your skull and we’re

[00:20:23] going to put a brain chip in and you’re going to be able to communicate directly with your computer right this is the kind of stuff that god was

[00:20:28] revealing to people 2 000 years ago but that they had no way of comprehending so praise god it is an

[00:20:34] incredibly exciting thing to be alive now and see all of this being fulfilled and coming

[00:20:40] to pass yeah you know it’s really interesting um so

[00:20:45] so as far as you know globalism is concerned and we have you know biden and trump and you said

[00:20:52] uh almost all the presidents have been a part of i think you said uh the bohemian grove yeah the bohemian

[00:20:59] grove except trump um and as far as i can tell from what i’ve heard from trump he is

[00:21:05] not a globalist it doesn’t sound at all like he’s a globalist he’s actually doing his best to fight uh for american

[00:21:10] interests specifically uh not not from a world perspective um and this is making a lot of people very

[00:21:17] upset uh so what is your perspective on the deep state in regards to you know trump biden and

[00:21:24] and should i um as a bible believing christian and in the process of exposing this you

[00:21:30] know somebody might look at this and they might say why are you so upset about a global

[00:21:36] system other than that the bible says this is what’s going to to happen and they might say isn’t this

[00:21:43] a good thing why are you fighting this um and i think that’s how a lot of people on the other side they look at it they look you crazy

[00:21:49] christians are all religious and your reasons are purely religious it’s not because it’s actually a bad

[00:21:54] thing do you have any thoughts on that yeah i mean i could make a wonderful argument against world government from a purely

[00:22:01] secular point of view i think it would be useless because you know the secular point of view is flawed

[00:22:06] from the start if you don’t acknowledge god as the creator of the world nothing else makes sense there’s no reason for anything

[00:22:12] but i mean from a religious point of view i think it’s obvious why this is bad first of all we see that uh evil people and beyond that evil

[00:22:19] spiritual forces are involved in this process second of all god is the author of nations in fact the last time people got

[00:22:25] together and tried this whole little global system thing god got really upset remember they were building this big tower of babel and

[00:22:31] god’s like wait a minute no no no he came down there and he confused the language he said i told you guys to spread out over all the world

[00:22:37] and there’s multiple passages in scripture where god says he is the one who divided the people of the world into

[00:22:42] nations there’s a lot of reasons why he did that uh and and from a secular point of view the concept of a world government is

[00:22:49] incredibly dangerous and you know i i’m not going to say for for a moment that everybody involved in

[00:22:54] pushing this agenda is necessarily consciously doing evil i grew up

[00:23:00] in this environment i went to international schools that were globalist to the core i mean you think globalist propaganda is bad in american

[00:23:06] public schools i mean you don’t even know the stuff that i was taught growing up they were training us to be the future

[00:23:12] managerial class of this global system so it was like the last best hope for mankind

[00:23:17] but just think about it for a minute right we know government is an incredibly dangerous institution as soon as it steps out you

[00:23:23] know god created government god ordained it for our good and he gave it certain tasks to punish evil and to protect the good that’s the task

[00:23:30] that god gave to government and when it’s acting in that capacity we have a duty to submit it is god’s minister unto us unto

[00:23:37] righteousness so you know government is a good thing but the moment it steps out of bounds out of the the role that god has defined

[00:23:43] for it horrifying things start happening don’t believe me pick up a history book think about nazi germany national

[00:23:50] socialism think about soviet communism think about chinese communism government has killed hundreds of

[00:23:56] millions of people just in the last century okay communist governments have slaughtered over 100

[00:24:02] million of their own people just in the last century clearly government is something very very dangerous that george washington

[00:24:08] put it well he said government is a nice servant but it’s also a fearful master when it gets out of the fireplace right

[00:24:15] it’s like a fire he said and that’s very true so from from a secular standpoint and from a christian

[00:24:21] standpoint the idea of a global government is very dangerous but the way they’ve sucked people into this well-meaning people people who who maybe

[00:24:28] you know don’t have discernment people who are not reading god’s word the way they’ve sucked people into this is hey look at all the wars that have

[00:24:35] happened and then wars happen because we have nation states and because we have religion if we could get rid of nation

[00:24:41] states if we could get rid of religion and just have one global government and one global religion then we won’t have war anymore then

[00:24:47] it’ll all be peace happiness kumbaya and all the rest of it but what does the bible say as soon as they say peace and safety

[00:24:53] what’s going to happen boom you’re in big trouble so that’s what we’re headed toward then the world’s going to get a very rude

[00:24:59] awakening so uh trump being you know against globalism

[00:25:04] um i imagine you’re you are uh probably a trump supporter i mean a christ supporter of course no

[00:25:10] man is gonna save the world except jesus absolutely but but from the perspective of you know the elections right around

[00:25:16] the corner here and uh trump is not a globalist and he seems to be

[00:25:21] very much opposed to it um you know how does that play into this is he is

[00:25:26] is i thought about it you know is god sparing us uh for a moment is he allowing for a

[00:25:32] time for more people to come to know him you know what is god doing because i i feel like kind of there’s there’s kind

[00:25:37] of this almost this you know kind of uh stop uh stopping the flow of

[00:25:43] of uh horrifying evil in a sense um temporarily do you have thoughts on

[00:25:50] what role he’s playing and you know not being in the in the bohemian grove and so forth i do yeah i have lots of thoughts on

[00:25:56] that and it’s something i’ve written about extensively uh yes i’m a trump fan uh with reservations you know i start off by

[00:26:02] saying the bible says don’t put your faith in men right it’s always got to be in god so it’s we’re not going to trust a

[00:26:08] politician to save us or even to save our country now i like a lot of what trump has done i like a lot of what trump has said

[00:26:14] but he’s a man he’s not god and he has some very serious failings uh one that struck me most recently

[00:26:21] there was this commercial made by an lgbt activist who served in the administration saying trump was the most

[00:26:27] pro-lgbt president in american history uh and then you know he had been supporting so-called homosexual marriage

[00:26:33] from before he went into office and he was the first in american history and i thought okay trump’s probably going to ignore that instead he tweeted

[00:26:39] it out and said he was honored and uh you know frankly if the word of god is our source of

[00:26:44] authority on everything the bible speaks clearly about what marriage is marriage is between a man and a woman and

[00:26:50] it’s much more important than just even the moral aspect of it marriage is a representation of christ’s

[00:26:57] relationship with the church and so when we start uh saying that you know two guys can get married or three girls can get married

[00:27:03] or you know the supreme court can say a guy is going to marry a goat suddenly we we’ve shattered this

[00:27:09] beautiful institution that god created for our good and and to see the president supporting that to see u.s embassies in other

[00:27:15] countries flying these lgbt pride parade flags uh it breaks my heart but with all that

[00:27:20] said i do think god is using trump uh for for some very important things uh

[00:27:25] it does feel like uh he’s used trump to kind of hold back the forces of darkness uh for a little while and and i

[00:27:31] don’t know what exactly his purposes are in doing that we do know that god raises up kings and so i’m confident that god has

[00:27:38] uh multiple purposes for putting trump where he is now and and you’re right trump has been

[00:27:43] fighting globalism very significantly i mean he’s withdrawn from multiple un agencies i mean this is stuff that i thought i

[00:27:49] would never see again in my lifetime and yet it’s happening we’re out of unesco the un’s education agency which

[00:27:54] is promoting this world core curriculum that the author of the world core curriculum his name is

[00:28:00] robert mueller he was the assistant secretary general of the un he admits in the forward to the teacher’s manual that this was based on

[00:28:06] the teachings of alice bailey who was the the the founder of the lucifer publishing company who is communicating

[00:28:12] with these spiritual entities she referred to as ascended masters so trump has clearly uh thrown some

[00:28:18] monkey wrenches into the machinery of this uh satanic agenda and and i’m incredibly encouraged by that and and

[00:28:25] i’m also encouraged to see a lot of christians now starting to think more seriously

[00:28:30] about certain things but you know ultimately in america we we are very unique in world history i mean

[00:28:36] we’re a country where we the people are supposed to be the ultimate authority under god right the founding

[00:28:41] father said god’s law is superior to any man’s law that’s why they said that our right to life our right to

[00:28:48] liberty our right to property that these are unalienable rights they said that god had endowed us

[00:28:53] with these rights they’re taking these principles straight out of scripture god said don’t murder therefore the founding fathers said you

[00:28:58] have a right to life that is superior to any government that’s a right that god gave you and nobody can take that

[00:29:05] away from you so so to see these principles being talked about again to see this this horrifying effort to build the

[00:29:11] world government uh not just stopped in its tracks but but even reversed in in many important

[00:29:17] senses is something that i didn’t think i would see in my lifetime and that i’m personally thrilled about i’m very pleased that god chose to do that

[00:29:23] and i do encourage people to pray about this but do be active you know god’s people have an obligation to

[00:29:30] govern this country correctly and we have our bible as our source of instructions for how a country is to be

[00:29:37] governed and we were so blessed that we were born in a country where we the people get to participate in that process

[00:29:43] amen amen yeah that’s great my guess is alex newman libertysentinel.org you can check him out there he recently

[00:29:50] came out with a book the deep state actually he just got fresh copies today so uh you can check that out also can

[00:29:55] they pick up a copy on your website uh alan yes they can and it will be up on amazon pretty soon uh but the pre-sales you can

[00:30:01] get them at libertysentinel.org uh click on the donate button there and then there’s some instructions you can send me an email with your address

[00:30:08] and uh or a po box and send you know 15 or 20 bucks by paypal and i’ll get one in the mail to you so

[00:30:14] that’s great okay so um you know with fighting the deep state and so

[00:30:19] forth and everything how much do you think that a person needs to be educated about the deep state because

[00:30:24] there’s a lot going on uh in the background because i mean that’s what the deep state is it’s it’s uh

[00:30:31] powers that be that are influencing the government in ways that we don’t either we don’t know about or in ways

[00:30:37] which we have no say in what’s happening um doing things how much do they need to know about what’s happening

[00:30:42] in the deep state how much should they be a student of the deep state in order to um you know make a

[00:30:48] difference and be able to live out their christianity in a way that is honoring to god what are your thoughts there excellent

[00:30:54] question and you know one thing i would say is we don’t want to get obsessed with this but one thing that i also want to say is

[00:30:59] god’s word talks about this extensively and if god’s word talks about it that means it’s important that means god

[00:31:05] thinks we ought to know something about it and so you know every christian doesn’t need to go out there and become an expert on the deep sea you don’t need

[00:31:10] to go buy my book and tell your pastor about it right but it is important for us to understand

[00:31:15] the nature of reality and i think a big part of the church has been really blind to this issue and a lot of pastors

[00:31:21] don’t want to talk about this issue because it touches on things that might be a little controversial and you might step on and if somebody watches

[00:31:27] cnn they might not like to hear that but guess what if god talks about these things these are things that we should

[00:31:33] be talking about and you know the bible has so much to say on this issue and if we don’t understand the nature of

[00:31:39] reality it’s it’s very easy for us to be deceived we know that satan is is walking about

[00:31:45] like a lion uh seeking whom he may devour and one of his chief weapons in his arsenal is deception and is lying to us

[00:31:52] so if we don’t understand how the world really works as revealed to us in god’s word then we are uh susceptible to these

[00:31:59] kinds of manipulations and and i also think there’s a misunderstanding again about the nature of reality

[00:32:04] there’s only two kingdoms right there’s there’s ultimately only two sides there is no neutrality

[00:32:09] uh god tells us multiple times in scripture luke 11 23 matthew 12 30. exact same phrase he

[00:32:17] that is jesus speaking he that is not with me is against me so you’re either part of

[00:32:23] god’s kingdom you are either a citizen of heaven or you are of your father the devil there’s

[00:32:29] only two options you can’t just sit back and say i’ll just see who wins and uh and then i’ll choose a side no you’ve

[00:32:35] got to understand that we’re in a battle you’ve got to understand that there are wicked wicked forces that want to devour

[00:32:42] you they want to destroy your family they want to devour your children they want to take your soul down to hell

[00:32:47] and so if you don’t understand that this is what we’re up against i think it makes you much more susceptible to

[00:32:54] being manipulated and and to believing things that are are frankly not just false but dangerous to your spiritual well-being

[00:33:02] so give us so give us some idea what what you’re talking about when you say that there are ideas that people are falling for

[00:33:07] that are dangerous that are that are being moved there this is uh you know pieces being moved by the

[00:33:13] deep state that are causing people to make bad decisions give us some examples of how that’s happening right now excellent

[00:33:20] i i’m so pleased to do that uh one of the really obvious ones that i i’ve just been shocked at how much this

[00:33:26] has infiltrated the church is the black lives matter movement now there’s no christian on this planet who

[00:33:32] who would you know even remotely dispute the idea that black lives matter if you’re a christian you know that god

[00:33:38] created every human being on this planet in his image you know that every human being on this planet comes from one blood you know

[00:33:44] that we’re all descended from adam and eve and from noah and his wife so to even suggest for a moment that some human life didn’t matter if it’s

[00:33:50] made in the image of god is preposterous there’s no christian who could come to that conclusion and yet at the same time we have this

[00:33:57] movement that’s very clearly of the world or or worse i’ll get into that in a moment called black lives matter

[00:34:03] that has i mean you now drive around parts of this country and you see black lives matter up on the billboard of a church

[00:34:08] and they’re not talking about you know just the obvious fact that every life is made in the image of god and therefore matters

[00:34:13] they are specifically endorsing this movement well what do we know about this movement we know a whole bunch of things we know

[00:34:20] that its own founders admit that they are trained marxists we know that on their website they call

[00:34:26] for dismantling the nuclear family god is the one who ordained the nuclear family we know that they call for the

[00:34:32] abolition of private property god is the author of private property he said thou shalt not steal

[00:34:38] that’s pretty clear if you ask me we know now that they are conjuring spirits right

[00:34:44] i’ve got videos and i showed these in my sermon because a lot of people who just watch television for their for their source of information they don’t realize

[00:34:50] this i’ve got videos of the founders of the black lives matter movement patrice cullers molina abdullah the

[00:34:57] professor who founded the los angeles chapter multiple black lives matter founders and leaders talking about how they’re

[00:35:03] they’re summoning spirits they’re i mean just unbelievable the things that they

[00:35:09] have admitted and you know they they might not recognize what’s going on here because they’re not

[00:35:14] biblically literate they haven’t been reading their bible they don’t know that god condemns necromancy and witchcraft and sorcery

[00:35:20] and speaking with dead spirits that he calls these things an abomination that they are detestable unto the lord

[00:35:25] and that they’re not really speaking to dead ancestor spirits they’re speaking to demons and they’re believing the doctrines of demons and yet a lot of

[00:35:32] this stuff has infiltrated the churches and i see pastors up there giving sermons about you need to apologize for your white privilege and

[00:35:38] you need to accept that black lives matter i’m thinking look this is the world’s garbage this is satanic propaganda it

[00:35:44] has no place in the church racism is not an issue in the church it can’t be an issue in the church we are

[00:35:49] one in christ if you’re talking about racism in your church i mean what’s wrong do you not believe

[00:35:54] what the bible says that we are one in christ are you not one in christ well maybe you’re not a church then right

[00:36:00] so so that’s one of many examples and it goes to the broader issue of marxism okay marxism is a total repudiation

[00:36:08] of everything that god has revealed to us on every single point right private property is the first and most obvious

[00:36:14] before you keep going into marxism i have a question about the blm movement sure that you stayed because you said you know that

[00:36:22] because blm seems to be very out there so it’s categorized as deep state why

[00:36:28] are you categorizing it as deep state if they’re pretty blatant about what they’re saying excellent question thank

[00:36:34] you for that and i i should not have omitted that now you know the black lives matter movement is portrayed as this kind of

[00:36:40] grassroots operation nothing could be further from the truth in fact i have a document that was hacked from george soros’s

[00:36:46] open society foundations in 2015 where they are openly talking about how oh this gives

[00:36:52] us an opportunity to create a national black lives matter movement we need to find some of these leaders and invest

[00:36:58] hundreds of thousands of dollars to train them so that they can turn this into a national movement and then we’re going to use that

[00:37:04] to dismantle local police departments we’re going to use that to dismantle so-called

[00:37:09] inequality by which they mean private property rights individual liberty and so on so we have key deep state operatives i

[00:37:16] mean george soros is almost like the essence of deep state right it’s a guy who’s made billions of dollars using shady means

[00:37:23] and that’s not just me saying that he was actually convicted in a court of law of insider trading i’ve got a video of

[00:37:28] him admitting on national television that he felt no guilt about helping the nazis

[00:37:33] steal property from jews i mean you know i understand he was a child it was a tough situation you know okay

[00:37:40] but how does a person do that and not feel a sense of guilt not feel a sense of remorse uh it

[00:37:45] suggests to me he’s got a seared conscience like the bible talks about but so when you see these types of and george soros is just one of many right

[00:37:52] i mentioned david rockefeller earlier there’s a whole bunch of these deep state architects and money men do you think

[00:37:57] that joe biden is uh involved in that is does he have ties to the deep state he absolutely does uh one

[00:38:04] of the videos that i showed in in my sermon is him uh talking to at the council on foreign relations so the council on

[00:38:10] foreign relations is an incredibly powerful deep state organization in the u.s it’s probably

[00:38:15] the most influential open deep state organization in the united states you know a lot of the ones that i’ve talked about are

[00:38:21] secret you know they don’t have membership list they don’t have a website the council on foreign relations does have those things well hillary clinton i’ve got a video of

[00:38:27] her you can find it on youtube while she was secretary of state she says the council on foreign relations tells her what she should be doing

[00:38:34] and how she should think about the future i’ve got dick cheney the vice president under george w bush

[00:38:39] talking about how he used to be on the board and how he loves the cfr and how he never told the voters back home in wyoming when he was running for

[00:38:45] re-election then i’ve got a more recent video of joe biden talking to a group at the council on foreign

[00:38:51] relations he’s on stage with richard haas the president of the council on foreign relations and richard haas introduces himself he

[00:38:57] says hi i’m richard i work here at the council on foreign relations and joe biden says and i work for richard uh and it’s just one of the many

[00:39:04] examples where um and it’s not a partisan issue at all i don’t want anybody to get the wrong oppression this isn’t even a political

[00:39:11] war that we’re in ultimately it’s a spiritual war and people in on both sides of the you know political divide republican

[00:39:17] democrat are very much involved with these institutions but you know to me it’s absolutely clear that joe

[00:39:23] biden is a deep state swamp creature as the president might call them uh i mean

[00:39:28] his own campaign slogan build back better that’s all the rage right now he literally ripped that off from the united nations that’s actually a u.n

[00:39:34] slogan and when joe biden says that he means it in exactly the same sense that the u.n means it he just doesn’t give

[00:39:39] them credit yeah he seems to do that frequently but um

[00:39:45] yeah it’s crazy but you know along these same lines too um you know you were talking about the

[00:39:51] ties to marxism law which obviously for a long time the issue of marxism and communism has been

[00:39:58] plaguing our country uh all the way back into the cold war and and i read a book uh not too long ago

[00:40:04] called the naked communist which was very very revealing uh about these issues and how that’s been trying

[00:40:09] they’ve been trying to infiltrate america in that regard um so why is it that trump

[00:40:15] is um trump is so anti these things why is he seemed so

[00:40:21] opposed is there a reason that you can tell because it just seems so out of the blue it

[00:40:26] kind of blew me away like what why is he so aggressively uh opposed to um the deep state and

[00:40:34] the globalism and these sorts of things you know i for one i think he is a christian i i do believe that he has

[00:40:39] been saved i you know i’ve heard people who who know him who have talked about his testimony and you know he’s he’s probably a baby

[00:40:46] christian he’s you know like me it took me many many years to finally come around to a biblical worldview and to leave all the propaganda

[00:40:52] behind and and i think you know that accounts for some of the things like what i was talking about earlier with the lgbt stuff

[00:40:57] but i do think trump is a christian and i do think he loves this country and this country was founded on biblical principles he comes from a

[00:41:03] christian background a christian home in fact his family has some incredible history with the church that’s just it’s

[00:41:10] just mind-blowing and so i think trump is coming from a position of sincerity and and i think

[00:41:15] the things that are hostile to christ to god’s word

[00:41:20] and and to america which was founded on biblical principles are you know trump sees those and he’s horrified by them

[00:41:25] and so globalism is a good example of that marxism is another good example of that and you know i think his opposition to

[00:41:31] marxism is genuine just yesterday a very good friend of mine frank de varona a cuban who invaded cuba in the bay of

[00:41:37] pigs operation was up in the in the oval office meeting with the president talking about you know what can we do to prevent

[00:41:42] marxism in america and at the same time make america strong so he’s genuine in his support for

[00:41:49] individual liberty i mean the bible is clear liberty comes from god right that’s a gift of god where the spirit of the lord is

[00:41:55] there is liberty even back into the old testament on our liberty bell right uh proclaim liberty throughout the

[00:42:01] land and do all the inhabitants thereof so liberty is something that is god ordained that is good and i think trump instinctively

[00:42:07] understands that as a christian who was raised a christian so i think that’s very encouraging but what i was going to say about marxism

[00:42:13] and this goes right along with this marxism is i think in essence satanism

[00:42:18] and a lot of people hear that at first and they’re like whoa what do you mean well you know i’ll start off by pointing out what did mark say he wanted to

[00:42:25] first of all abolish private property okay again god is the author of private property god’s the one who said thou

[00:42:30] shall not steal marx is proposing that we steal everything from everyone okay

[00:42:35] institutionalizing theft marx called for women to be held in common he believed in communal women

[00:42:41] we’re not going to have a man and a woman married for life in a monogamous relationship he believed that you know all the men should be able to

[00:42:47] do stuff with all the women communal women he believed that the government should take charge of children right uh

[00:42:53] this is horrifying to a christian the bible is crystal clear about who is in charge of the upbringing

[00:42:59] the education of children that is the parents i mean there’s endless bible verses talking

[00:43:04] about who’s in charge of raising children that is parents not government certainly not karl marx

[00:43:10] and so on every issue karl marx comes down on the wrong side so there was this pastor a romanian pastor named richard vernbrandt a

[00:43:16] wonderful man of god uh you see i i guess you know who he is that’s right yep so so he um he was arrested in romania by

[00:43:23] the communist government there he was tortured for many many years and all the time he was you know praying for his captors and preaching the gospel to them

[00:43:29] uh when he finally got out he said you know what this must be satanic that was his hypothesis so he did the research

[00:43:36] and what he found was proof that his hypothesis was correct he actually quotes he wrote a book called marx and satan if you don’t

[00:43:42] have it i encourage you to go get a pdf lays it out he goes through marx’s poetry you know marx is portrayed as an

[00:43:48] atheist which uh you know god doesn’t believe in atheists but he’s not an atheist if you read his poetry he

[00:43:54] made a pact with satan and he writes about his pact with satan he despised god and so when you

[00:44:00] understand that marxism is satanic suddenly you see all these marxist revolutions around the world these

[00:44:05] marxist organizations in america through a completely different lens yeah well that makes total sense uh i

[00:44:11] mean that you would say that it’s hard to believe that something could be that evil and not be of satan you know the the amount of uh

[00:44:19] uh horrific things that have come out of marxism um i wanted to we have we have a little bit time left and i

[00:44:24] wanted to touch on this because i know you’ve you’ve uh wrote written on this the 1619 uh

[00:44:30] project that’s infiltrating our schools our schools have already been plagued uh tremendously with uh horrible ideas and

[00:44:37] indoctrination in public schools and so forth um what is this can you give our listeners an update on what’s happening

[00:44:42] with 1619 and why this is such a problem yeah thank you for the opportunity to do that so

[00:44:48] 1619 project is the latest effort to rewrite american history to completely they say it’s an effort to

[00:44:54] reframe american history it’s really an effort to rewrite american history from top to bottom so until recently you asked your average

[00:45:01] american you know what is the birthday of your country they say well 1776 that’s when our founding fathers said

[00:45:06] that uh god created us all equally and god endowed us all with inalienable

[00:45:12] rights and so therefore we are going to assume uh the powers which we are entitled to

[00:45:17] from nature and from nature’s god to declare independence and found this nation i mean it was totally based on

[00:45:22] biblical principles they want to abolish all that and they say no the real birthday of your country

[00:45:27] is the year 16 19. that’s the year that the first african slaves arrived on north american soil well to

[00:45:34] start off with that’s a lie in and of itself they were indentured sermons these were some african people who had been kidnapped by

[00:45:40] a rival african tribe in what is today angola they were put on a european merchant ship and brought to

[00:45:46] america as indentured servants after their periods of servitude were up they were free to go and in fact one of

[00:45:51] the earliest africans to come to the united states his name was antonio because he came over on a portuguese ship

[00:45:57] from what was then portuguese angola he became anthony johnson here he actually became the first legal

[00:46:03] slave owner in the united states up until that time there was not slavery that was legal this guy a black man from africa very

[00:46:10] wealthy after he finished his period of servitude he went out on his own as a free man created a very wealthy plantation and he

[00:46:17] sued somebody in a court and that was the first ruling authorizing the ownership of a person

[00:46:22] for a period of life before that indentured servitude only went on for a period of years so anyways it’s probably more detail than what people wanted to

[00:46:29] know but i just wanted to point out this whole thing starts from a lie but so they say that is the real birthday of

[00:46:35] america and so everything about america in fact the author of the of the main essay in the

[00:46:40] 1619 project and nicole hannah jones she says racism and white supremacy and

[00:46:47] and evil and oppression and slavery they are she says embedded in the dna of

[00:46:52] america well if that’s in our dna there’s nothing you can do to get rid of it right it’s who you are

[00:46:58] the only acceptable solution then is as they say in iran death to america right and so this is an

[00:47:04] effort to completely undermine a nation that was founded on the principles that are found

[00:47:10] in god’s word a nation that was blessed by god because of being founded on those principles a nation that was in a fallen world

[00:47:16] created by fallen men that was of course not perfect that did tolerate slavery for longer

[00:47:21] than it should have but you know and i’ll just remind people for some context slavery was an institution that has existed

[00:47:27] from the dawn of human civilization in almost every human civilization that has ever existed on this planet

[00:47:33] until christianity led by western christians in the uk and the

[00:47:38] united states and some of the other western european countries said wait a minute this doesn’t line up very well with biblical principles how can we own

[00:47:44] somebody if they’re created in the image of god we shouldn’t do that so we ended slavery in our own countries then we ended it all over the world

[00:47:51] it took a long time i mean you could still buy and sell slaves legally in mauritania an african country until 2007

[00:47:57] but uh you know i think that’s a history to be proud of that that for the first time in history we said no we’re not

[00:48:02] going to do that anymore but the new york times project it is now in public schools all over america

[00:48:08] and it is being used to indoctrinate our children to hate christianity to hate the church to hate their family

[00:48:14] their parents themselves and their nation for very strategic purposes and as the president

[00:48:20] pointed out recently the reason we see this mayhem in our streets is because our children are being indoctrinated

[00:48:26] in public schools that’s absolutely true well that’s a powerful point uh to wrap

[00:48:31] things up here alex i really want to thank you for being on the program it’s been a huge blessing to have you well thank you so much for

[00:48:37] having me kevin it’s been a real blessing to be here i appreciate the opportunity god and i’m sure we could have a lot more to talk about so we might do a

[00:48:43] follow-up to this but you if you’re listening out there alex newman just came out with a new book deep state

[00:48:49] if you want to be informed about these issues because i know a lot of people are very interested in this they’re studying this they’re trying to understand what’s going on

[00:48:55] and it’s worth your time it’s worth your effort because like you said you know the bible talks all about this it says this is what we’re going to be dealing

[00:49:01] with we’ve got to be aware we’ve got to be alert right we got to keep uh oil in our lamps we got to know what

[00:49:07] what’s happening here and um so that we can let other people know because they can come to know christ as

[00:49:13] they go whoa wait a second here’s what the bible says and here’s what’s happening the bible’s true right and that’s how

[00:49:20] christ and uh that’s how a lot of other people are gonna come to know christ too i don’t i don’t doubt it for a second so

[00:49:25] again thank you alex and uh we’ll be back again next week you guys we’ve got hundreds of shows up on the

[00:49:31] website uh just interviewed dr james fazio last week on dispensationalism very very interesting

[00:49:37] on the different ages and then have other many other interviews up there with scientists like

[00:49:42] dr james tor one of the top 50 scientists in the world he shows that evolution can’t possibly work we’ve interviewed

[00:49:49] all kinds of guests that you can check out get a lot of useful information that will help you to be a blessing to those around you

[00:49:54] and help you to be a light for christ so god bless you i hope you have a great weekend and we’ll see you next time

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