Rescuing Those Being Led to Death with Don Blythe

[00:00:00] okay thanks for being here this evening my name is Kevin Conover I’m the host on educate for Life radio and we broadcast

[00:00:05] down here in Southern California on K praise 1210 a.m. as well as FM 106.1 in

[00:00:12] North County and of course we’re all over uh the web we’ve got uh the Youtube

[00:00:18] channel we’ve got the podcasts and all that good stuff and um the goal of the

[00:00:23] show is to help people see what’s happening around the world how God is working through people um changing lives

[00:00:31] on a regular basis and there’s so many incredible people doing incredible things all over the world um God changes

[00:00:38] their life and then they go out and they change other people’s lives and it’s just a wonderful thing to see it’s so encouraging and my guest this evening um

[00:00:46] you know not too long ago I’m sure you’re aware roow versus Wade was overturned that um is just incredible

[00:00:53] that was the the federal uh abortion legalization of abortion was overturned

[00:00:59] and and um you know 1973 abortion in our country was legalized on a federal level

[00:01:06] and now um it’s been put back to the states right so um now states are battling over whether um abortion is

[00:01:13] legal or not incredibly there are 14 states that have bans on abortion um

[00:01:19] this is as of November 7th I got this off the New York Times 14 states that have a full ban on abortion under no

[00:01:26] circumstances is abortion allowed and uh I know for a lot of Christians they didn’t expect to see this in their

[00:01:33] lifetime um when this happened and my guest today has been doing Ministry

[00:01:38] helping rescue lives from abortion um since 1984 and uh he has stood with half a

[00:01:46] million pro-life marshal at the Supreme Court he’s been all over college campuses um visiting high schools and um

[00:01:55] out in front of abortion clinics reaching out to women who are considering having an abortion and um

[00:02:01] has had more than 4,000 women decide not to abort their child what an incredible

[00:02:07] testimony Don BL atth well ministries.org Don thanks a lot for being on the program this evening well

[00:02:14] thank you for having me yeah it’s a real privilege I you know my hope for the show this evening is that people can

[00:02:20] hear what you’ve done and realize that they can make a radical difference I mean um is that accurate what I just

[00:02:27] said that over 4,000 women now have just decided to keep their child rather than to

[00:02:32] abort yes we um over the years we’ve had you know uh many opportunities to see

[00:02:41] lives changed both for the gospel and for um the abortion issue and and so

[00:02:47] we’ve got over 4,000 the the we were talking about it the other day uh for

[00:02:54] example I had a a gentleman come up to me that used to be in a gang and and I was talking to him in front of the

[00:03:00] abortion clinic uh we go in front of several abortion clinics here uh in

[00:03:05] Northern California and um he said he goes my three sons are alive because of

[00:03:13] the first one you saved he said had you had you not talked to me out

[00:03:19] of the first abortion I would have aborted the next couple of babies as

[00:03:25] well he goes and my wife and I are we were just thinking about that you actually saved three babies so while

[00:03:32] there’s 4,000 there’s probably eight or 10 or 12,000 when you get done thinking about it because that’s what they they

[00:03:38] like to say to me yeah I I would have kept doing it you know but you yeah me to stop living in the evil world I was

[00:03:45] living in he quit the gang um he he and I become good friends and um we every

[00:03:53] month we try out new Mexican restaurants and we and judge them we judge them

[00:03:58] together so and I’m awesome I’m really working on him to put his faith and

[00:04:04] trust in Christ every single day and um he he believes here but down here in the

[00:04:10] heart it’s a little bit more of a struggle so um but so yeah there’s there’s at least four and and and maybe

[00:04:17] more um I U I was trying to think I’m not technology Savvy with a lot of

[00:04:24] things so what I did is I thought uh my brother said hey why don’t you just show up a card so um here’s a picture of uh

[00:04:32] these are postcards I send out um here are three little boys that we saved in front of an abortion clinic uh in

[00:04:39] Modesto California and uh we saved triplets uh the girl was going in there

[00:04:46] yeah she was going in there to abort triplets and we talked her out of it and so we went by to visit her and I said

[00:04:52] man I got to hold all three of these at the same time so that was pretty cool um

[00:04:57] that’s amazing when we saved triplets it’s a it’s a a big kick um but uh We’ve

[00:05:04] saved twins a number of times um here’s a little boy uh right here uh he grew up

[00:05:12] um uh couple of doors down from us we actually helped them save their baby uh

[00:05:18] he grew up to knock my son’s team out of the Little League

[00:05:25] playoffs doesn’t matter right yeah you know years later we had helped this couple and years later they had gone

[00:05:32] into the abortion clinic and as they pulled in I I offered them the literature and I said please let me talk

[00:05:38] you out of this let’s talk and so they sat in the car and talked talking to people that are in going into abortion

[00:05:44] clinics talking to them in their cars is a lot better because they’re in their safe Zone once they get out of the car

[00:05:51] it’s a little bit tougher but so they were sitting in the car and they were parked right near where I was standing in the drive near the driveway and um

[00:05:59] and I said you know let me let me get you to leave here let’s talk about this there’s a Pregnancy Help Center here’s

[00:06:06] the card has the phone number they’ll see you right now and it’s all free and

[00:06:11] so we started talking and and he says well I’m on on course to become um a uh

[00:06:21] police officer and my fiance is on her way to becoming uh part of the medical

[00:06:28] community and this just isn’t good time I said well it’s obviously the time

[00:06:37] because you’re carrying a little boy or girl inside you right now that’s alive but if you go in there that baby’s going

[00:06:44] to die and every time you remember this month you’ll remember

[00:06:52] it’s the month that you killed your child and so I said you can become a

[00:06:57] police officer she can be become a nurse or whatever you want to become and you can follow your dreams it may take a

[00:07:05] little longer but you can follow your dreams this baby should not be the reason you shouldn’t pay for your future

[00:07:12] with the blood of your baby and he looked over at his girlfriend his fiance and he said

[00:07:17] um what do you want to do she goes I want to go home and I said would you go

[00:07:23] by the pregnancy ever said yes we will so they went home they had that precious little boy and had three more children

[00:07:29] after that uh they got married um and the um the it was really

[00:07:37] interesting her parents saw me at the wedding they didn’t know me other than

[00:07:43] that I was the guy that talked them out of an abortion while everybody else was telling him go have an abortion and they

[00:07:50] looked at me and said uh you better come through for them and I boy what a cruel

[00:07:56] thing to say but uh I W up helping him get a a house a couple doors down to

[00:08:01] rent and um we became friends he became

[00:08:07] what he wanted to become she became what she wanted to become they had three more children after that but while they were

[00:08:14] growing up I hadn’t seen him for years uh because they had moved and my son at

[00:08:20] 10 years old he was in the Little League playoffs in our community and uh we said

[00:08:27] hi to them because we saw them over on the team’s bench in in the stands and

[00:08:33] the game was tied 55 and my son was playing third base and

[00:08:40] his son came up to bat with their winning run on second base wow and I

[00:08:47] looked over at them and I smiled and they looked over at me and they smiled we thought what an interesting moment

[00:08:55] yeah and and that kid drove the ball into center field and scored that run

[00:09:01] and my son’s team got knocked out of the playoffs and as we’re driving home my

[00:09:07] son says to me dad does it bother you at all that we we no more little league the rest of the

[00:09:14] summer we’re done and he goes it you’re not too bothered so I said Son let me

[00:09:19] tell you a story yeah and I told him I was in front of an abortion clinic and I

[00:09:24] talked that couple out of it and that boy is the one that that won the game

[00:09:29] for his team and my son sits back in the car sits back in the in in the seat and

[00:09:36] he says that’s really cool let’s go have some pizza so it didn’t bother him after

[00:09:43] that that he got beat and yeah no way I mean that’s it’s incredible the ripple

[00:09:49] effect of of you know doing good and just you you can see that because you’ve been in this ministry for so long and to

[00:09:56] see these kids growing up and and what’s happening it’s absolutely incredible living in the same town even though I go

[00:10:03] to abortion clinics all over uh even down in your neck of the woods um

[00:10:09] but when you’re in a town for 40 years where I grew up um you you have that

[00:10:16] opportunity to see the fruits of your labor a lot of people if they move

[00:10:21] around and go to different parts and they’re not there they don’t see that but I’m there and everybody knows I’m at

[00:10:28] that Clinic every week and then another clinic every week and people will come by and they’ll talk to me and say you

[00:10:36] know 10 years ago you were out in front of this clinic and I’ve driven by for 10 years and I’ve

[00:10:45] I’ve wanted to stop and talk to you but I’ve never done it today I decided I’m

[00:10:50] gonna stop and talk to you and they pull their car over and this lady gets out of her car and she says 10 years ago I came

[00:10:59] into this abortion clinic and you said something to me and and it brought on

[00:11:04] the conviction you know she didn’t say this but it brought on conviction she was sitting in the lobby and she sat

[00:11:10] there for about 20 minutes to a half hour and she said you know he’s right and she got up and wouldn’t talk to me

[00:11:18] and she got up she walked out and she got back in her car and left when she gave birth to that that little boy and

[00:11:25] she said to me she goes I’ve been wanting to tell you this for 10 years I

[00:11:30] go why didn’t you stop you drive by for 10 how do you go 10 years and she goes

[00:11:38] well she goes he’s sitting in the car right there I didn’t want to talk to him to you about it with him hearing so he’s

[00:11:43] sitting in the car and she said um I went home and I told the man who I

[00:11:51] was having an affair with who is married that I’m pregnant I’m not going to abort that baby and

[00:11:59] he said I am sorry this happened he said my wife and I will take responsibility

[00:12:06] and she said he has been responsible even though I’ve had my own life um and I’m a single today but she said he took

[00:12:14] responsibility and his wife didn’t divorce him and they they uh helped

[00:12:19] finance her to help with the son and she said um but what I really think um I’d like

[00:12:27] to tell you is after I gave birth to my son two years

[00:12:34] later an unrelated physical problem that I had

[00:12:39] unrelated to the birth of my son caused me to have to have a complete

[00:12:46] hysterctomy and she said do you know what I never forget I never forget that had I had

[00:12:52] that abortion I would have aborted the only child that I would ever have in my

[00:12:57] life wow man I said lady you have just you

[00:13:03] have just inspired me to stay out here for another hundred years I mean this is just what a story and and she goes I

[00:13:10] want to thank you and she she got back in her car real sharp lady got back in a

[00:13:16] car drove away I’ve never seen her since her son’s probably 20 years old now but

[00:13:23] never saw her again so being in the same town and being in that area a lot you’re

[00:13:28] going to see you’re going to have a lot more stories than somebody who goes out and and uh you know goes to another city

[00:13:36] and uh it just it I wouldn’t trade it for

[00:13:41] the world it’s been 40 years and um I’ve been doing sidewalk I wanted to use the

[00:13:47] abortion issue as a springboard to share the gospel um and so I use this issue to

[00:13:53] talk to people and so for 40 years I’ve been doing that and about 15 20 years

[00:13:59] ago about 15 years ago my niece came up to me and said I’m starting to go to colleges now

[00:14:06] not just abortion clinics I I go out in front of high schools and leaflet high schools now I go to uh colleges I go

[00:14:13] whoa whoa whoa wait wait you’re going to colleges can we do that she goes absolutely let’s talk about it and I

[00:14:19] found out that we are so ignorant about the freedoms that we have and so um and

[00:14:27] oftentimes the college are ignorant of the freedoms that we have and so we had

[00:14:32] to have a good Law Firm we got a Christian Law Firm that has been awesome and uh my niece has been was uh arrested

[00:14:42] nine times I’ve been arrested seven times we’ve won all our cases um

[00:14:48] colleges have had to change what are you arrested for what what would they arrest you for uh you can’t be on a college

[00:14:54] campus without their permission that’s just not true they just make that up and uh you can’t come

[00:15:02] on the campus because you’re you’re interfering with our school uh you’re

[00:15:07] interfering with our classrooms and we is that um only public camp is that like State C or is that oh

[00:15:15] all public colleges you can’t go on a private college campus Because it’s private property but a public college is

[00:15:22] a public place well I was down at San Diego State uh it’s a public place those

[00:15:28] are those are public walkways now we set up in the quads at the colleges we set

[00:15:34] right up we have a display and if you go to my uh project truth.org you’ll see those pictures of

[00:15:41] us on the college campuses phenomenal pictures um and we go on to the we set

[00:15:47] up a display on the college campus and we invite students to talk to us well we quickly become the talk of the college

[00:15:54] and students are going into the classroom saying look there people out here here they’re noted to be out our

[00:16:00] school and so the school calls the police and says we don’t give permission

[00:16:06] for them to be on the campus and so we have to walk through it with them that this is not a private place this is a

[00:16:13] public facility we’re not in the classrooms we’re not Walking The Halls we’re standing as a group saying hi

[00:16:19] would you like to talk let’s talk and um I’ve had professors invite me into the

[00:16:25] classroom um in fact we were just we were just that uh uh I won’t name the

[00:16:31] school in case somebody wants to harass them but I went to a university that’s well known in the world um and um a

[00:16:40] professor of uh ethics of all things uh who was uh not on the same page as me

[00:16:47] but she uh came up to us and she goes you know everybody’s talking about you all the students want to talk about you

[00:16:54] on the campus and and she goes why don’t you come into my classroom room and I’ll give you 15 minutes to to give your

[00:17:03] presentation as to why you’re on our campus I said I think that’s great she actually said I’d like you to talk about

[00:17:09] where you got your ethics how did you have your ethics influence your life and

[00:17:16] where did you get those ethics I thought well that’s awesome open the

[00:17:22] door so I said when the class start she goes it starts in in five minutes I go

[00:17:30] okay so I told the rest of my team there’s about 12 of us I said you guys stay out here cover everything I’m gonna

[00:17:36] go be Professor ble so I walked she had me come in she goes this is the

[00:17:43] gentleman that’s working with this group outside and uh I’m sure you guys have a lot of questions and uh uh he’s here to

[00:17:52] talk to us a little bit about what motivates him to do what he does and so I said hey good morning I uh here’s

[00:18:00] where I got my uh world view that influences my ethics there are only two

[00:18:07] World Views in in in the world we are under one of those you are under one of

[00:18:13] these two worlds either you believe that we are random molecules in motion that

[00:18:20] came from Mortal slime and that were glorified monkeys or you believe there

[00:18:26] is a God that is over all this and that he created us and you’re under one of

[00:18:32] those two views and all of your ethics come from those two views one of those

[00:18:38] two views not both just one and so um she was not ready for me to say that I

[00:18:45] don’t think she knew what I was gonna say I think she thought I can’t believe I can’t believe she invited you into the

[00:18:52] classroom without knowing what she was getting herself into they think they’re

[00:18:57] smarter than us and they think they’re going to put us down because they don’t

[00:19:03] sit and talk to people like us they don’t know what they’re up against because they think we’re all a bunch of

[00:19:10] dumb religious nuts that are going to go well Jesus Loves You this I know for the

[00:19:15] Bible tells me so and they’re gonna go and they’re gonna mock us so yeah

[00:19:20] they’re not ready for us to have a and I’d be glad to sing that song to him but

[00:19:26] um I I shared the gospel but you got to do it in a clever way you can’t just go

[00:19:32] well you know thus saith the Lord and you you you sound all holier

[00:19:38] than now that’s that’s not how Jesus did it Jesus walked up and talked to people

[00:19:44] he looked at a woman and he goes I’m thirsty can you give me some water and

[00:19:50] she goes what well who are you you’re one of those we don’t like people like you and

[00:19:57] he goes goes but I I’m thirsty and she starts talking to him and he was real

[00:20:04] with her yeah and he gave her truth we like to ask

[00:20:11] questions um my brother Larry talked about the book tactics yeah Co you can’t

[00:20:19] go to heaven unless you read that book if when you get to the Pearly Gates the

[00:20:24] Lord’s going to say did you read tactics and practice it for from Greg K and and

[00:20:30] if you say no he’s going to make you sit down on a white bench outside the Pearly Gates and you’re going to have to read

[00:20:36] that book and then when you finish reading tactics you’ll be allowed into heaven I’m joking that’s a Greg Greg

[00:20:45] will love that uh endorsement right there well I’ll tell you it it really works asking questions who is ma who are

[00:20:53] the Masters at that the leftist the the the Liberals they’re

[00:20:59] Masters at asking questions and but they ask Twisted questions they ask stupid

[00:21:04] questions but they ask questions that throws off the other person so we ask

[00:21:11] questions um and we challenge them we say did you know that we’re under one of

[00:21:16] two World Views did have you ever thought about that you know now instead of you nailing them you you can

[00:21:22] challenge them with questions and um the it was supposed to be 15 minutes

[00:21:29] the teacher let me stay for an hour wow I actually when 15 minutes was up I said

[00:21:35] hey um I appreciate your time she goes oh no no no no you stay she goes this is

[00:21:41] good this is good and my students have questions I go oh boy I love questions

[00:21:47] so um the Q&A is the best part Frank Turk is a friend of ours and his web

[00:21:53] page uh uh his uh web page uh is filled

[00:22:00] with videos of students asking him questions and him giving them the

[00:22:05] answers I use he’s a mentor of mine and so you ask questions and umh Jesus did

[00:22:13] that and so uh we get on the college campus and we’ll have these large

[00:22:19] displays and we’ll say to the students will will say

[00:22:24] um what do you think of our display have you ever seen pictures of Injustice like

[00:22:29] this no I haven’t I think you guys are a bunch of idiots and I said well I don’t want to be an idiot so what is it I’ve

[00:22:38] done that makes you say that because I’ll stop being an idiot if you’ll just tell me what I’m doing wrong to be an

[00:22:44] idiot well they’re not used to that kind of honesty they’re not used to that kind of clarity and and so they’ll go okay

[00:22:53] and they’ll come up and they’ll want to tell you you know uh well I think you’re an idiot because uh those aren’t real

[00:23:00] pictures and I go oh oh oh wait a minute where did you learn that those aren’t

[00:23:05] real pictures where did you get that idea well I mean those are that’s not a baby you know a fetus at 11 weeks they

[00:23:13] don’t even have fingers and toes and I said well here’s what I want you to do

[00:23:19] tell me where you learn that because if one of your professors told you that they should be fired they’re giving you

[00:23:26] false information so why don’t you look Google it right now

[00:23:33] Google uh what a fetus looks like at 12 weeks and so oh yeah you got it you know

[00:23:40] and they’re clicking away and then they go oh yeah or you know I’ll say when do you

[00:23:49] think a baby’s heart starts beating well you know at at at six months probably

[00:23:55] six months or just before birth and I said ‘y you see you have a belief system

[00:24:01] that is not based on reason and logic you don’t have the facts you’ve made a decision about abortion and you don’t

[00:24:08] even know what abortion is you don’t even know what a fe do you know what the word fetus means have you ever you keep

[00:24:16] using the word fetus do you know what the word it’s a Latin word you keep speaking Latin to me why you doing that

[00:24:23] do you know that the word fetus means a little one or little baby or little

[00:24:28] child it means a little human being so when you look at me you go well it’s not

[00:24:33] a human being it’s a human being but you say it in another language but you’re doing that to play verbal gymnastics and

[00:24:41] to try to dehumanize that baby it’s really interesting what you’re saying uh don because you know um it’s amazing how

[00:24:49] quickly you’re able to change somebody’s mind uh you know you said you that the

[00:24:55] person literally comes up to the abortion clinic you get get this brief amount of time to talk to them and

[00:25:00] within that short amount of time you can actually change somebody’s mind and it sounds like the same thing on these college campuses and Ray Comfort made

[00:25:07] that movie 180 where you see that happen too in those really quick conversations do you think that a lot of the reason

[00:25:13] that people have become comfortable with abortion is just because they don’t know

[00:25:18] the basics about you know about biology logic and just you know humanity and God

[00:25:26] is is is it just they just don’t know the basics they’re that ignorant is that what’s going on um the part of the

[00:25:34] problem is now over the years the 40 years I’ve been doing this in the college campuses it has become it has

[00:25:41] become more difficult to to talk people out of abortions okay there was a time

[00:25:48] when you could save two or three babies a a a week or you could get people to

[00:25:55] change their mind most people don’t if there’s 25 abortions um most of those

[00:26:01] people I just want to clarify that if there if there’s 25 people going in you

[00:26:06] might be able to talk one or two or three out of it so uh it was a little

[00:26:12] bit easier back then now people are a little bit more hardened um I mean here’s a why is that why why are people

[00:26:19] more hardened here I am at a fence trying to talk that you can see that pretty clearly right yeah yeah I can and

[00:26:26] um here I am talking to a girl at the door now if she’ll come over and take my

[00:26:31] literature I’m I’m halfway home but if she doesn’t um which a lot of them won’t

[00:26:38] then they go in and they they have the abortion and some of them come out like

[00:26:43] this um oh wow and they’re taken away in an ambulance this girl and her mother

[00:26:49] said um as they were walking in she goes I know exactly what I’m doing and I

[00:26:55] don’t need your advice and I said well young lady I’m out here because I’m trying to rescue you I’m trying to talk

[00:27:01] to you and she goes well I don’t want to hear it and the mom said why don’t you shut up she’s doing the right thing

[00:27:06] that’s how she came out two hours later so so sad um and she wasn’t smarting off

[00:27:12] at that point so um I’m giving you some good great some good stories of reality

[00:27:19] of what goes on but it is become more difficult to talk people out of abortions um and I think the reasoning

[00:27:27] behind it is to get to your question um people have become

[00:27:35] entranced in worshiping feelings everything’s about feelings

[00:27:41] whatever your feelings are that’s the verification of Truth so their ideas if

[00:27:48] they believe something and their feelings are confirming that that is

[00:27:57] true truth not realizing that feelings are deceptive don’t trust your heart

[00:28:04] yeah we we live in a world where trust your heart trust your heart trust your heart do what you feels right you know

[00:28:10] you your truth is your truth and all of this garbage and the average Christian

[00:28:15] at least the ones I know they don’t know how to answer those people they just go

[00:28:20] well you know and they don’t know how to effectively talk to people Ray Comfort

[00:28:26] uh he joined us at um Huntington actually I went into his turf at Huntington Beach where he does a lot of

[00:28:33] his programming and he was finishing up and so when he finished up we set up our

[00:28:38] display and he comes over and he goes hey can I join you guys no no I of course I said yes you know so he joined

[00:28:46] us and um when we were out talking with

[00:28:52] people we sometimes have to really work at getting past their feelings I you

[00:28:57] know I said’ look I I I know you disagree with me but would you take the time to think why you disagree with me

[00:29:04] do you disagree with me because you have the truth on your side or are you disagreeing with me because you don’t

[00:29:10] want the truth to bother you Romans 1 says they know the truth and they choose

[00:29:17] the lie so that’s the world Romans 1 is the 21st century chapter of the Bible

[00:29:25] right now very much so I think where people are right now is they’re they’re

[00:29:32] they’re relying on their feelings to determine whether something’s right or

[00:29:37] wrong and that’s a challenge to get them past that and that’s where the questions

[00:29:42] come in um you’re confident in what you believe but is what you believe logical

[00:29:49] I mean I have college students all the time we’ve been to hundreds of colleges um

[00:29:55] and when we’re and we go every semester if you have any listeners that are interested in going to their colleges

[00:30:02] I’ll come with them and spend the day with them in a college campus okay I

[00:30:07] wantan to do that I want to do that oh I’m telling you it’s awesome it’s awesome SSU when are you when can we go

[00:30:13] to SDSU um we were just there last year

[00:30:18] okay so we’ll go there next year how does that go how does that go when you go to SDSU is that uh actually there are

[00:30:26] pictures of that in on my web page um atthe ministries.org

[00:30:32] um uh it went really well now when you say How does it

[00:30:37] go um I have I have kind of a different way of judging

[00:30:43] success for us for us people used to say to me well how successful are you Don

[00:30:51] and and I that would frustrate me because the majority of the people were rejecting us Jesus looked out at the

[00:30:58] crowd out over at the hilltop and he goes and he wept and he

[00:31:03] goes why aren’t you listening to me so this is nothing new I I’m well I’m gonna

[00:31:08] tell them the truth and everybody’s gonna go yay yeah the majority aren’t so you’re there to pick pluck those lost

[00:31:15] sheep and so um when you go to a campus like San Diego State or you go to any

[00:31:22] college campus um uh we actually snuck on the Stanford campus because they have

[00:31:28] a section of their campus called The Free Speech area which they thought was only for their students yeah but once

[00:31:36] you declare it a free speech area anybody can go and so you go on these

[00:31:41] campuses and you talk to these people and people would say to me well how

[00:31:47] successful are you and I finally came up with what I think is the correct answer

[00:31:53] we are 100% successful and every everybody goes what

[00:31:59] like when you’re in front of abortion clinics you’re 100% successful I said yes I am and they go come on Don and I

[00:32:06] said no I’m 100% successful because God told me to go out and tell people the

[00:32:14] truth God told me to go share the gospel God told me to reach out to the Lost God

[00:32:21] told me to go do this and I do and

[00:32:27] listen some accept some reject but my job my Ministry my life is to have the

[00:32:36] mind of Christ and I don’t see Jesus Christ hanging out in an airconditioned

[00:32:42] office 40 hours a week preparing a sermon I see Jesus going out into the

[00:32:49] world and showing his disciples how to talk to

[00:32:54] people Jesus when he was a kid he I don’t know how Mary and Joseph lost him

[00:33:02] how do you lose the Messiah yeah God gives you one responsibility and you mess it up yeah so they lose the Messiah

[00:33:09] they find him in the temple and what does the Bible say he was doing in the

[00:33:15] temple everybody says to me well he was preaching he was he was he was telling

[00:33:20] him the truth and I go ah you need to read carefully what Luke 2 says they

[00:33:26] found Found Jesus in the temple listening and asking

[00:33:33] [Music] questions and they were astonished at his wisdom and

[00:33:40] understanding we we skip over that part like nobody’s oh he was preaching to him you know would there a 12-y old pree he

[00:33:47] was listening and asking questions he was learning I was in a gas

[00:33:53] station and I’m feeling guilty of about not handing out gospel tracks to

[00:33:58] everybody in the gas station I got a captive audience why am I just standing there and so I walked over and I started

[00:34:06] giving gospel tracks to everybody and a young man looks at me and uh that’s pumping gas uh the next one over he

[00:34:13] looks at me and he goes what’s this and I said this is a gospel track it will

[00:34:19] tell you how to know God and he looks at me he takes it he looks at me and he goes how did you know

[00:34:27] yeah I said H I’m I’m sorry how did I know what he goes how did you know and I

[00:34:34] go I I I don’t understand how did I know what he said how did you know that I’m

[00:34:40] thinking about committing suicide and I said I didn’t

[00:34:47] know but God did yeah and he

[00:34:52] goes well I I am and he was he was thinking about it he wasn’t joking and

[00:35:00] and I looked at him and instead of going well John 3:16 Says which is good you could do that but over the years you

[00:35:07] keep trying different things and you keep trying things that will plant the seeds of Truth in people’s lives so I

[00:35:14] looked at him and I and I said I got a question for you he said

[00:35:20] yeah go ahead now at this point everybody pumping gas it was busy they were listening to the story

[00:35:27] and and he says um he goes I I oh I said let me let

[00:35:35] me ask you this question he goes okay I’ve always wanted to ask someone who’s

[00:35:40] thinking of committing suicide this question what made you and convinced you

[00:35:48] that by committing suicide your life’s going to be better by dying yeah what

[00:35:56] did you do how did you talk yourself into saying it’ll be better on the other side do you know what’s on the other

[00:36:03] side and he looks at me and he goes

[00:36:09] no then how do you know that on the other side it might be

[00:36:14] worse because God says if you don’t know him it is worse for

[00:36:22] eternity and he looks at me and I can see the gears are going

[00:36:27] and he looks at me and I said that little gospel trap that I gave you will

[00:36:33] tell you what’s on the other side and it will tell you what God’s plan for you is

[00:36:40] and that way you’ll know whether or not suicide is the right answer because God had a

[00:36:48] reason for you being on the planet I don’t think suicide was it but he wants

[00:36:55] you to have a home in heaven and you can’t have one unless you have a right relationship with God so would you

[00:37:02] read that little gospel track and think about what it says and he says he stuck

[00:37:07] his hand out and he goes thank you for talking to me I’ll read it that’s

[00:37:13] awesome and I went and got in my car so people are living by their feelings and

[00:37:19] we’ve got to come up with ways to reach them with the truth to get them we got

[00:37:25] to stir them with the truth the Bible says the word of God is sharper than a two-edged sword the Bible says to share

[00:37:32] the truth with people you don’t have to say it in King James English but you have to say it in a rational responsible

[00:37:39] way as the guy walked by me going into the abortion clinic I said to

[00:37:46] him uh and when they’re alone a guy is going into the abortion clinic to get

[00:37:52] either condoms or STD testing so as he’s walking by I said hey young man I said

[00:38:00] can I give you some information that I want you to read and can I Sidetrack here a minute this is a a a brochure

[00:38:07] called Unlocking the Truth you can see this on that project truth.org website

[00:38:15] we put this together from being out on the sidewalks and being at colleges pro-choice people say this is the best

[00:38:22] anti-abortion brochure they’ve ever seen wow we’ve given out over half a million

[00:38:27] this brochure is by far the greatest brochure and we’re biased because we put

[00:38:33] it together based on our talking to people but it is the only pro-life brochure in America that has the gospel

[00:38:40] in it on the last page no pro-life literature has the gospel in it why would you why would you

[00:38:48] go out and try to talk people out of abortions why would you go on college campuses if the gospel’s not somewhere

[00:38:54] included so we we it’s on the last page but we tell people read through the

[00:39:01] whole thing and it’s very well written in a way that people will check it out

[00:39:07] um and it is powerful and we uh you can see it on our web pages um

[00:39:14] but this the guy says to me I I said so uh I’ve got some information I’d like

[00:39:22] to give you of other places you can go to get STD testing and and he goes really I said ‘ye I said um I said he

[00:39:31] goes well I’m actually here to get condoms and I said let me ask you a question do you

[00:39:37] believe in God and he 80% of the people believe in

[00:39:44] God why are we catering to the 20% stop doing that and I looked at the

[00:39:51] guy and I said I didn’t say that part but I looked at him I said why are are you um going in there

[00:39:58] if you believe in God do you go to church somewhere he goes yeah I love my church I said do you

[00:40:06] consider yourself a Christian do you know Jesus Christ as your lord and savior he said yes I do and I

[00:40:14] said then let me ask you when Jesus says

[00:40:19] have nothing to do with the fruitless Deeds of Darkness are you going in in there to

[00:40:28] practice some Darkness CU he said the sexually immoral will not inherit the

[00:40:33] kingdom of God if and and I’m being honest with you man I I appreciate you stopping and

[00:40:40] talking to me I’m not trying to be mean he goes I know I said but you call yourself a Christian you’re not married

[00:40:47] no I’m not married you’re gonna you’re anxious to go get your condom so you can go back to your girlfriend and

[00:40:54] have immoral relationship ships with her when God says you save that for marriage

[00:41:01] and listen my friend I’m as human as you are I I know the struggles I know the

[00:41:07] Temptations I get it but you have to say no there’s a reason why God put us out

[00:41:13] here together to talk and he’s listening and I challenge him ask him a couple

[00:41:18] more questions and I let him know that you will get a sexually transmitted

[00:41:25] disease it’s not you might I promise you you will get a sexually transmitted

[00:41:30] disease whether you’re doing the condom or not and so I’m asking you to honor

[00:41:37] God today and he’s standing there and I can see he’s just in turmoil which is an

[00:41:43] indicator he might be a Christian and so and I’m talking to him as a guy and

[00:41:49] finally I looked at him and I said I’m about ready to leave I got to go but I

[00:41:55] said I I’ve given you the truth if you walk that way towards the

[00:42:01] clinic you’re telling God I’m not GNA obey you if you go to

[00:42:07] your car you’re gonna be honored God’s Gonna honor you and he’s gonna bless you

[00:42:12] and give you the strength to save yourself for marriage so I gotta go

[00:42:19] now and I turned around and as I did he stepped towards me and he stuck his hand

[00:42:26] out and he said thank you for talking to me I said thank you for listening and he

[00:42:33] turned and got in his car and drove away oh wow he didn’t go inside you know do

[00:42:38] you know do you know why that event happened because I’m the master

[00:42:46] no because I got out of the way I obeyed God and let him work on this guy through

[00:42:54] his holy spirit through God’s word through the truth of sharing with him what God shares with people throughout

[00:43:01] the Old and New Testament Jesus walked up to people and said now go in sin No More Jesus walked

[00:43:07] up to people and said a guy walked up to him and he goes great master and Jesus

[00:43:13] looked at him and he goes you’re right I’m the Great Master I’m the Mighty God I’m that’s who you know what Jesus did

[00:43:19] he looked at the guy and he goes he asked him a question yeah he looked at the guy and he goes why are you calling

[00:43:26] me good yeah only only one good and so it’s all there it’s all there in the

[00:43:32] book yeah and so the effectiveness of college Outreach and abortion clinic

[00:43:39] Outreach is found in go do it and I don’t have all the answers

[00:43:47] neither do I that’s why I asked my brother um you you uh that’s why I asked

[00:43:55] Frank turret that’s why I have doctors that I talk to if I don’t know the answer I’ll look at

[00:44:01] somebody and say well yeah I’m not sure about that let me let me get back with you I said or in fact let me look it up

[00:44:07] right now you know just be real with people and when we’re on college

[00:44:14] campuses a lot of times students will say to us you don’t talk like the other

[00:44:19] Christians on our campus and I I I go what do you mean by that I I don’t I

[00:44:26] don’t get what you mean and they said well most people just Bible thump or

[00:44:32] they don’t have an answer and I said well I’m Bible thumping you you just

[00:44:38] don’t know it and I I said so what I do is I just talk to people and I just want

[00:44:44] you to know I’m telling you the truth and challenging you with the truth the

[00:44:52] truth is there is a God that you’re going to be accountable to someday that you are going to stand before that God

[00:44:58] and give an account for this conversation we had right now God sent

[00:45:03] me to talk to you and to offer you the truth you rejected my brochure and you

[00:45:08] don’t have a clue of what’s in it you’re living by your feelings you’re not living by truth and righteousness and

[00:45:16] all I’m doing is I’m out here to say listen I’m out here to talk to you um

[00:45:21] and and do you know sometimes the students will say to me and to our team we got about 12 people on our team

[00:45:28] students will come up and say to me uh when we’re talking they’ll they’ll say

[00:45:34] boy would my Mom and Dad love to know that we had this conversation

[00:45:39] today that’s crazy these students have moms and dads that are on their knees praying for them that someone would come

[00:45:46] to them yeah and share the truth with them and that’s why we do what we do um

[00:45:52] here here I am talking to a bunch of uh college students that don’t know better than to wear stupid masks but that’s

[00:45:59] that’s another show but I am on the uh the Oregon State campus and there we are

[00:46:05] they all came up and they wanted to talk yeah and we’re respectful to them but

[00:46:11] they stood for an hour and a half and talked to us wow they asked us questions

[00:46:17] about abortion we answered their questions and then they wanted to ask questions about

[00:46:23] God and they wanted to know why I don’t believe in evolution and Science and I

[00:46:28] go I believe in science but what is science it’s the observation of

[00:46:36] things quit making such a big deal about it yeah that’s what science is so so we

[00:46:43] have these conversations and so these students will sit and they’ll listen to us and they’ll talk to us um we go in

[00:46:50] front of the abortion clinics um and we we talk to people and we just challenge

[00:46:55] them um here’s another one um here’s some of our team we’re on the University of

[00:47:01] Washington campus and we just set up our signs and they come up students will

[00:47:07] come up and talk to us and have good dialogue are we use our victim imagery

[00:47:14] stuff uh and people oh well we shouldn’t do that no we should we’ll have

[00:47:20] Christians come up to us on the campus and say you guys shouldn’t be um uh

[00:47:26] showing these graphic pictures to our classmates Jesus wouldn’t show graphic

[00:47:31] pictures and I wasn’t Jesus was a graphic picture that’s brother that’s exactly what I do I stand there and I

[00:47:38] put my hands out and put myself in the shape of a cross yeah and I go Jesus showed the most graphic picture in the

[00:47:44] universe to the world and said you did this and the student the Christian

[00:47:50] Student will look at me and go yeah yeah

[00:47:56] you’re just repeating what you heard in an echo chamber or you what your pastor said I’m telling you right now Jesus

[00:48:03] would show it and we’re changing lives because of it and because of that here we are at Sack City College and look at

[00:48:11] those students all around me there’s a professor right there this guy right here is a

[00:48:16] professor that’s a professor they’re listening they’re asking me

[00:48:21] questions and they’re they’re listening and just have great

[00:48:27] great if opportunities to talk to students even though it’s getting more and more difficult um so so i’ I’ve done

[00:48:36] quite a bit of this myself too not not on the abortion issue but I’ve gone down to the beach a lot you want see a baby

[00:48:41] save there’s a that’s awesome that’s awesome is that cool so I wanted to ask you Don um and for those of you

[00:48:48] listening uh don blthe ministries.org if you want to get more involved if you want to if you want to participate by

[00:48:54] going on a camp or knowing where he’s going to be next so that you can join him um check him out out at the well

[00:49:01] ministries.org or project truth.org and um Don I have a bunch of

[00:49:07] questions for people that you know want to do this and everything you’ve mentioned several times that and we

[00:49:13] don’t have too much time left here but I want to I want to ask these questions um you mentioned several times that you go

[00:49:18] with a team you have a team of like 12 for somebody who wants to start this let’s say they’re in their home their

[00:49:23] their local Town they’ve got a University nearby they want to start going on to the campus they they’re

[00:49:28] they’ve learned oh wow this is a public school campus I don’t have to get permission to be here um then should

[00:49:35] they bring people with them um is it should is it okay to go by yourself what what are your thoughts on that um to the

[00:49:44] short version is if they contact me through at thewell ministries.org

[00:49:50] um I’d be glad to come and be there with I do this fulltime so I’d be glad to

[00:49:55] come there and and talk to their church talk to them I’d be glad to do it um the

[00:50:01] way we do it is we always have GoPro cameras we have a GoPro camera right on

[00:50:07] our shoulder we don’t we’re not on a campus without a GoPro camera because you will be falsely accused so um of all

[00:50:16] sorts of strange things so um you I we have our GoPro cameras going the whole

[00:50:23] time we’re out there it’s on the whole time we don’t even m with it well people won’t talk to you they talk to us I mean

[00:50:31] they don’t not talk to us they talk to us they don’t care about the GoPro cameras maybe one or two once in a while

[00:50:37] but um we we show up and we have our literature we have our brochures we have

[00:50:44] the gospel in there we also have other material but we try to stay down into one or two things don’t have a whole

[00:50:51] bunch of 14 different things that you think oh this is good this is good this is good no don’t do that have one or two

[00:50:56] brochures one or two items that cover it all and uh usually a pregnancy Health

[00:51:01] Center card the a brochure and I’ll give you you know I’ll give you the brochures

[00:51:07] and um a h a gospel track we also have New Testaments uh we have gospel New

[00:51:14] Testaments so we go on the campus be as light as you can don’t have a lot of

[00:51:20] stuff never go alone never in fact that comes from scripture

[00:51:27] yeah he said I’m out in two that’s right at least two by two so um you you go out

[00:51:32] with someone else you um the Jehovah’s Witnesses have taught us that okay I’m

[00:51:38] kidding I’m kidding every everybody’s just they they’re just stopped

[00:51:45] watching actually they’re on campus they don’t when they set up their

[00:51:51] display no one talks to them the whole four hours they’re there I’ve noticed that whenever I I’m

[00:51:58] wherever I am I I’ll see Al lone Jehovah’s Witness table by itself nobody talking to not a soul so I go over and

[00:52:05] talk to him oh that’s yeah to witness so you go on the campus you you you go to

[00:52:12] the quad and it’s good to have a little display and we have great signs so they

[00:52:17] can look at our signs on our web page and we have little signs which will draw

[00:52:23] people you don’t have to walk and bug people just stand there you just stand there for five minutes someone’s G to

[00:52:29] come up and talk to you um and then you you just you say hey uh well I think you

[00:52:35] guys a bunch of idiots what’s with the stupid fake pictures you’re in yeah

[00:52:41] let’s do it and so you talk to them and you just say well these aren’t fake

[00:52:46] pictures who told you that that would be that’d be kind of dumb to show up on a college campus and show fake pictures

[00:52:52] that’d be dumb um so that’s a great that so that’s a that’s a great way to get started bring people um you know don’t

[00:53:00] carry a lot of stuff that’s great um and then that’s great advice about the camera having the camera just to to make

[00:53:06] sure you’re you know you’re you have to have a camera and so you and they go well you you can’t film us on campus

[00:53:13] without our permission and all this all foolish stuff which is funny because there’s cameras all over the campus

[00:53:20] being filming all during the day you know and so I said you see that camera right up there they’re filming you and I

[00:53:26] talking and they’re filming our conversation right now so would you please stop being silly let’s just talk

[00:53:31] and so I’ve got another another question for you too so in along those same lines you know you you’ve been to high schools

[00:53:39] the abortion clinics the college Camp go on to the high school campus no yeah yeah I don’t think that’s legal but you

[00:53:45] can you can can but we stay on the sidewalk in front of the school okay and

[00:53:50] then so that was my next question is if somebody wants to get started doing this and and they’re inspired by what you’ve

[00:53:56] said here um what would you recommend would be the the first place to go to would would it be to the high school

[00:54:02] would it be to the the clinic is this something you just pray about and say Lord you know guide me to where I go or

[00:54:07] do you do you give advice that the college campus is the best place to go what are your thought um I think the

[00:54:13] best place to go is a twoh hour training and okay to go sit down and say

[00:54:22] look I want to do this and I got 15 people that want join me I’ll show up I

[00:54:27] don’t charge a dime um I do like Chipotle burrito so that if you get me

[00:54:32] to Chipotle burrito I’ll go anywhere so you go and you you do a two-hour

[00:54:39] training you you you spend time talking about it because you want to be able to

[00:54:46] uh when you go to an abortion clinic any types of variables can happen so if you

[00:54:52] know ahead of time you can you can go out there and I’ll go with you to the abortion clinic and we’ll assess the

[00:55:00] situation and we’ll we’ll kind of gauge okay this is good this is not good um

[00:55:06] then the second thing you do is um I would you know start with an abortion Clin but you don’t have to um and there

[00:55:13] are other people out at some of the abortion clinics and it it can make it a little difficult because if you’re with

[00:55:20] people that don’t have the same God we have but they think they do that can make it a little bit un comfortable I

[00:55:26] just take the lead I just take the lead I say listen I’m glad you’re out here standing up against abortion but you’re

[00:55:32] part of a man-made religion and you don’t have the spirit of God leading you so don’t don’t tell me I shouldn’t be

[00:55:40] out here doing it the way I am okay and so I take the lead a little bit and I’m nice to him but um then the second place

[00:55:49] high schools is a really good spot because what you do is we grab like uh

[00:55:54] you know you know a thousand brochures and we either go in the morning or the afternoon we find out what time school

[00:56:00] gets out and we do that and so right after school these kids are pouring out

[00:56:06] two or three hundred kids and we’re going hey do you get one of these hey you get one of these hey you get one of and we’re handing out brochures for 25

[00:56:12] minutes and we’ve saved babies doing that we know of babies that have been saved doing that so we’ll leaflet the

[00:56:18] high school um for about 20 minutes and there few pros and cons you have to be careful of what you do out there um and

[00:56:26] then uh the third thing is the colleges the college campus is going to be a little bit more of a uh of a different

[00:56:33] kind of challenge um because you might get approached uh last year a after all

[00:56:40] these years and college is finally starting to get it right we’re on the San Jose State campus and the foolish

[00:56:46] president of the school an arrogant pompus uh lady she has us arrested and

[00:56:54] we fortunately have been down this road before we know what we’re doing so you may show up at a campus where they don’t

[00:57:00] know the law and so it’s good to have somebody that knows what they’re doing

[00:57:05] and um so I think if somebody wants to do it if they just call us up and say Don bring your team and and uh let’s do

[00:57:14] this um we’ll be there in a heartbeat and um we’ll we’ll help these guys

[00:57:19] because three of us are full-time at it and then three or four of our people are retired so um we can go anywhere and um

[00:57:28] so uh we went to Ireland and fought abortion when they were making it legal there we spent about three months there

[00:57:34] that was awesome um but so so if somebody wants to get started I would

[00:57:40] read the book tactics um I would

[00:57:45] um uh probably uh there’s a couple of websites I would encourage people to go

[00:57:53] to um um not much because a lot of times the

[00:57:59] answers people suggest that you give to people is not always that clear and so

[00:58:05] um uh so is this about when you talk about training is this about learning

[00:58:11] the the the way to interact with people because you T you mentioned tactics is that a lot of what you’re doing is

[00:58:17] training people on how to respond to questions or criticisms or whatever that

[00:58:23] is that what a lot of the training is I somewhat because a lot of that

[00:58:31] learning how to talk to people and learning how to answer their question stuff comes from just doing it yeah I

[00:58:38] mean if you look at the Lord he he walked up to these 12 guys who were fishermen and tax

[00:58:45] collectors they didn’t have a clue the tax collector only knew how to talk down

[00:58:51] to people and the fisherman only knew how to curse the people you know so all

[00:58:56] of a sudden you get these guys together and you’re going okay you 12 and and and

[00:59:02] he didn’t take him and go let’s do a a long seminar he actually said I’m gonna

[00:59:07] give you a three and a half year seminar yeah and the way we’re gonna do it we’re gonna go out on the streets I know that

[00:59:12] Ray Comfort has a a a group I think his son-in-law um they actually do a

[00:59:19] training in the morning and then they go out in the afternoon and they actually take on the

[00:59:25] street so for me a lot of I’ll say here’s some of the basics now let’s go out there and talk

[00:59:32] and when we’re done after two or three hours not much longer than that if you’re out there more than that you’ll

[00:59:38] go stir crazy so you go two or three hours out there and then then you come

[00:59:43] back and you talk about what happened well the girl walked up to me and and she said I had this at a college campus

[00:59:50] there’s actually a display that they held up that said I am not an

[00:59:57] incubator uh my my uterus is not an incubator and actually it is well well

[01:00:05] and that’s what we want to say but we got to come the right way we got to be clever about it so I walked up to her

[01:00:12] and you can actually see that video on my project truth.org website you can see

[01:00:18] the actual dialogue and I looked at her and I said I got a question for you she

[01:00:23] goes sure and she was a snoody kind of bratty girl and and she says uh I I said’ no I I

[01:00:30] have an honest question let’s have a nice convers okay we can you know because they’re afraid of us they don’t know who we are they’re not used to

[01:00:37] having civil dialogue so so I said do I said what is the

[01:00:45] uterus and she goes well it’s not something that you have I said well I’m

[01:00:52] not being I’m not trying to be silly I I I got an honest question you say that

[01:00:57] your uterus is not an incubator what is a uterus and she goes well it’s a place

[01:01:04] where chickens go I said what

[01:01:10] chickens and she goes she goes yeah and I go I don’t understand she goes you

[01:01:17] know chicken eggs in an incubator and I and I go oh I said but I still got the

[01:01:24] same question what is a

[01:01:29] uterus and I let the quietness and the truth prick her

[01:01:34] conscience yeah and you’ll hear me pause and the girl says to me they try to take

[01:01:40] me off on another tangent I go no no no let’s go back to this you have a sign that says my uterus is not an incubator

[01:01:47] would you explain to me what a uterus is and she goes

[01:01:53] well okay maybe it is it an

[01:01:59] incubator she holding this stupid side and so I looked at her and I wasn’t

[01:02:05] mean I didn’t go I just looked at her and I let the truth prick her conscience and I just

[01:02:12] said to her I said well thanks for your honesty I said so your uterus actually is an

[01:02:18] incubator and yet she had heard for years we heard that line for years I am

[01:02:23] not an in incubator I am not an incubator actually we are yeah yeah a

[01:02:30] woman when she gets pregnant becomes God’s incubator for that Growing

[01:02:36] Child inside her yeah incredible and and you ought to the conversation is really

[01:02:43] I wasn’t I didn’t use trickery I wasn’t mean I wasn’t and so when we’re going to take people out to go do this talking

[01:02:50] with people I’m going to tell them just relax just kind of let the conversation

[01:02:56] go where you can ask the right questions and focus in on the right answers and

[01:03:01] it’s not rocket I I tell people it’s not rocket

[01:03:07] surgery there you go good not it’s not it’s not rocket

[01:03:13] science it’s just it’s really simple and and and it and it comes with

[01:03:19] practice the apostles practiced yeah Jesus said I’m send you

[01:03:24] out I want you to come back so he sent him out and they came back and he goes Jesus says so how to go yeah and went

[01:03:33] they hate us us out there and Jesus said to him

[01:03:38] what did Jesus say to him they hate you because they hate me

[01:03:46] yeah and they hate me because what I’m telling them it I’m telling them the

[01:03:53] truth and they hate me because I’m telling them what they do is evil yeah

[01:03:59] and that’s what Jesus says so Jesus

[01:04:04] knew how to talk to these guys hey go out there get your rear ends kicked a

[01:04:09] little bit he didn’t say it to him he knew that was gonna happen yeah you’re gonna get kicked around a little bit

[01:04:15] then come back let’s talk about it yeah excited they were excited too they saw

[01:04:20] they saw people’s lives change too you know and absolutely like you said I love what you said that it’s a you’re

[01:04:26] 100% successful uh not because of the results but because of obedience and um

[01:04:32] your love for God and your love for people you know so the results are in God’s hands exactly exactly so that is

[01:04:38] awesome well um we got to wrap up here but Don I really want to thank you for your time and for your ministry and your

[01:04:44] example it’s really inspiring and encouraging I hope I didn’t just talk too long oh man no you you had so much

[01:04:51] incredible stuff to say I’m so blessed um and uh very encouraged and uh I hope

[01:04:56] to do this with you actually um I would be glad to come down there and do it with you you just get back with me and

[01:05:03] I’ll be glad to come down there yeah we want to go to the university um

[01:05:09] UCSD yeah we want to uh we want to go there because we heard that those people think that they are actually God and so

[01:05:17] that campus is BU they have the Sun God Festival there where they they worship the sun god there you go and so and I

[01:05:24] love baloa Park I love witnessing people at Balboa Park and so when we were in

[01:05:31] when we were in um uh in front of Trinity College in Dublin I was standing

[01:05:37] handing out gospel tracks and prolife literature right in front of the entrance to Trinity College the famous

[01:05:44] college in Dublin and and one of my team members says hey Don you see that statue

[01:05:51] right there do you know who that is and I said said uhuhuh I didn’t look at the

[01:05:56] name on it and they go don that’s Edmund Burke and I go are you kidding me That’s

[01:06:04] So Co I’m out here standing here in front of this crowd it’s the center of Dublin and I’m handing out literature

[01:06:11] and they go that’s Edmund Burke he graduated from Trinity when it was a god

[01:06:17] school and so I I actually took a picture of that in front of there and

[01:06:23] and for those who aren’t sure who he is he’s the one who said The only thing

[01:06:28] necessary for the Triumph of evil is for good men to do

[01:06:34] nothing one of my favorite quotes and and and I was standing where he

[01:06:40] stood wow that’s so cool standing on that spot and I just thought this is

[01:06:45] awesome so I’m always looking for inspiration to keep being out there because they hate us out there well

[01:06:54] you’re inspiring a whole lot of people man so thank God for what you do and I’m I’m just really blessed to have this

[01:07:00] opportunity to chat with you so yeah um again at thewell ministries.org check it

[01:07:06] out if you w to um bring Don and his team down to to do some training and to go out with you and do that uh this is

[01:07:13] an incredible opportunity and uh you can also support his ministry too just check out his website and um Don I I’d love to

[01:07:20] have you on again sometime soon just to chat more and to get more

[01:07:25] um you know more stories and more wisdom about how best to do this so be glad to

[01:07:31] be glad to talk to you guys about it and just talking about the various things uh some of the tough questions that people

[01:07:37] have there are good solid answers and our team thinks that we have the correct

[01:07:43] answers to a lot of the challenges people like what about uh you know uh

[01:07:49] eptopic pregnancies uh what about a woman that might die what about this what about we

[01:07:54] think we have the correct answers because we’ve thought it through and we practiced it on people and found out

[01:08:00] that they uh you know should women be punished for having abortions uh if it becomes illegal we we have thought it

[01:08:08] through and we believe the holy spirit is given us the right answers uh we could be wrong but we we’re pretty

[01:08:14] confident we’re confident that we have the right answers most pro-life organizations don’t have the right

[01:08:19] answers um well you’re just supposed to share the gospel with people don’t do don’t talk about abortion all those kind

[01:08:26] of odd and and weird questions and so those are a lot of things we could talk

[01:08:32] about next time is um some of the tough questions and how we have seen the

[01:08:39] effectiveness of how we answer those questions so that sounds fantastic that

[01:08:44] sounds fantastic okay well thanks again Don and uh I hope you have a a great evening when you need tires or service

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